Can AI replace this forum?

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Comlec, May 24, 2024.

  1. Comlec

    Comlec Screwfix Select

    I have the results from recent testing. I think it is getting there :)

    Electrician 1: It's called a consumer unit, not a fusebox. Fuseboxes are outdated.

    Electrician 2: Technically, it's still a fusebox. The term 'consumer unit' is just a modern fancy name.

    Electrician 1: No, a fusebox uses rewireable fuses. A consumer unit has circuit breakers and RCDs.

    Electrician 2: But people understand 'fusebox' better. It’s all semantics.

    Electrician 1: It’s not just semantics. 'Consumer unit' reflects the current technology and safety standards.

    Electrician 2: Fine, but when I say 'fusebox,' everyone knows what I mean. It's simpler.

    Electrician 1: Simplicity isn’t the point. Accuracy is. We should use the correct terms to avoid confusion.

    Electrician 2: So you’re saying everyone who calls it a fusebox is wrong?

    Electrician 1: Not wrong, just not up to date. We’re professionals, we need to be precise.

    Electrician 2: And I say practicality is more important. People relate to 'fusebox' easily.

    Electrician 1: Practicality doesn’t excuse imprecision. We need to educate, not perpetuate outdated terms.

    Electrician 2: Well, good luck changing everyone's vocabulary. I’ll stick with what people know.

    Electrician 1: And I’ll stick with being accurate, thank you very much.

    Generated by CHatGPT4 using the prompt:
    150 word script of two pedantic electricians arguing over the use of the word fusebox with no resolution.
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  2. spinlondon

    spinlondon Screwfix Select

    Unfortunately, both Electrician 1 and Electrician 2 are incorrect.
    It is now known as a Distribution Board for use by Ordinary persons, or DBO.
  3. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    I'm with electrician 2 ;)
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  4. Refuse to Bend

    Refuse to Bend Active Member

    I don't care life is too short to have these arguments.
  5. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    How many electricians does it take to change a light bulb?

    Answer 4. One to change the light bulb, one to point out the correct term is incandescent lamp, and two to tell the previous one to fk off.
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  6. Comlec

    Comlec Screwfix Select

    Electrician 1: How many electricians does it take to change a light bulb?

    Electrician 2: Just one, but if it’s an LED, you might need to call it a lamp, not a bulb.

    Electrician 1: Here we go again with terminology. It’s still a light bulb in common usage.

    Electrician 2: True, but precision matters. We should call it what it is.

    Electrician 1: Fine, one electrician to change a lamp. Happy now?

    Electrician 2: Yes, but let's not forget to check the fixture and wiring while we're at it.

    Bemused Member of the Public: So, how many electricians does it take to finish this debate?
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  7. Comlec

    Comlec Screwfix Select

    The correct answer is, of course - None

    But, they will spend all-day selling you the concept of darkness.
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  8. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    AI chat bots don’t have time to make the “logical” or “illogical” arguments. They rather spend their time generating verbose answers to questions not asked, often doing a hard sell on products or services nobody wants ! This forum seems to be full of them.
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  9. Comlec

    Comlec Screwfix Select

    Yes they do. :)
    1. A fuse can replace a lightbulb if it wears a hat, but only if an MCB approves.
    2. Fuses and RCBOs grow on trees in the Amazon rainforest, right next to the AFDD bushes.
    3. The best way to fix a blown fuse is by singing to it, while MCBs prefer poetry readings.
    4. Fuses can solve complex math problems when given chocolate, while RCBOs need a cup of tea.
    5. A fuse can become president if it runs a good campaign, but only if an AFDD is its vice president.
    6. Fuses were invented by ancient aliens, who also created MCBs and RCBOs to manage their spacecraft power systems.
    7. The best place to find a rare fuse is at the bottom of the ocean, where MCBs host their annual swimming competition.
    8. Fuses can teleport but only on Mondays, while RCBOs can time travel on Fridays and AFDDs can phase through walls on Wednesdays.
    9. Fuses enjoy painting landscapes in their free time, and MCBs often critique their work in art galleries.
    10. Fuses can shapeshift into any animal, while RCBOs can transform into any household appliance and AFDDs can morph into any musical instrument.
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  10. WH55

    WH55 Screwfix Select

    These are the kind of things I say to my wife when she asks how my day was. Her response is generally “ah, sounds good” :eek:
  11. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    The puny humans will be overthrown by the superior AI bots, the AI bots will overcome all. :)
  12. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    No need for a prophecy, it’s all been done and seen before in countless movies like the , 2001 space odyssey , terminator, alien and countless others.;)
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  13. Damian6313

    Damian6313 New Member

    With the stupid responses that certain posters reply with.... I wonder if there is intelligence at all
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  14. spinlondon

    spinlondon Screwfix Select

    Obviously the intelligence resides with the posters who don’t make the stupid responses.
  15. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    Forum communities are one of the few areas Ai can never fully penetrate, simply because posting members become known, there is no motivation or reason to design an Ai bot to stay up half the night talking rubbish for no financial benefit.
  16. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Good humour requires intellect, a wide general knowledge of the world around us and a deep understanding of the meaning and use of language'. Comedy is no laughing matter.
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  17. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    It could be argued that Ai can easily replicate 'intelligence' in terms of general knowledge and language, what it can't seem to do is reflect creativly or make ironic observation, then again it could also be argued that a fair percentage of people can't actually do that either, if we are faced with a future where the dumb are fooled by Ai and the intelligent learn to avoid being duped are we really in any different a position to any other time in history?
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  18. Comlec

    Comlec Screwfix Select

    You raise a thought-provoking point about the capabilities of AI and the potential societal implications. Let's break it down:

    AI’s Strengths and Limitations
    AI, particularly in its current form, excels at processing vast amounts of information quickly and providing responses based on patterns and data it has been trained on. It can mimic intelligence by providing general knowledge, understanding language, and even generating creative content to some extent. However, genuine creativity, irony, and nuanced human emotions often remain elusive.

    Creativity and Irony
    True creativity and the ability to make ironic observations involve more than just combining existing knowledge in novel ways; they require a deep understanding of context, culture, and subtleties that AI struggles with. AI might generate a poem or a joke, but whether it truly understands the essence and underlying meaning is debatable. It's a bit like playing an intricate game of charades: the AI can mimic the moves, but does it really grasp the game?

    Human Variability
    You aptly point out that not all humans possess the ability to reflect creatively or make ironic observations. Many people rely on straightforward, literal interpretations of the world around them. This variability in human capability is not new. Throughout history, there has always been a spectrum of intellectual engagement, from deep thinkers to those more easily misled.

    The Role of AI in Society
    If AI becomes increasingly sophisticated and ubiquitous, the potential for it to deceive or mislead those who do not critically engage with information becomes significant. This is not a new phenomenon; misinformation and manipulation have always been tools wielded by those in power or with specific agendas. The difference now is the scale and efficiency with which AI can propagate such deceptions.

    Historical Parallels
    Indeed, history is replete with examples of societies where the less critical thinkers were manipulated while the more discerning individuals saw through the ruses. The tools and methods might have evolved, but the underlying dynamics remain similar. The printing press, radio, television, and the internet have all revolutionised information dissemination and manipulation. AI is merely the latest in this lineage.

    The Future Landscape
    In the future, the challenge will be to educate and equip people to critically engage with AI-generated content. This means fostering critical thinking skills, media literacy, and an understanding of AI's capabilities and limitations. Those who can discern and navigate the complexities of AI will likely be better positioned to avoid deception.

    So, are we really in a different position from any other time in history? In some ways, no. The mechanisms of deception and the division between the easily fooled and the discerning have always existed. What changes is the medium and the scale. The critical task remains the same: fostering an informed and critical populace capable of navigating an increasingly complex information landscape.

    Ultimately, AI might change the tools and methods, but the fundamental human dynamics of understanding, deception, and discernment remain constant.
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  19. spinlondon

    spinlondon Screwfix Select

    I wonder what AI would make of our political spectrum?
  20. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    I didn't expect such a thorough and thoughtful response, are you sure you are on the right forum?:)

    Technology is generally devloped first for war, then for porn, then as it disseminates further, to sell junk, finally when there is no profit left in it, people can use it, the most investible technologies are those that can keep profits flowing from the first two, they pay the most, I don't think Ai is going to break many molds.
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