No maker can change the law. The law says you only need be competent. They have to go by the law. If an installation is fitted correctly within the law they have to honour the product. Yes, yawn, you've mentioned that a zillion times It never sunk in. Keep reading it for ever. Not for the 1st time you have missed the point completely..never mind - you don't matter, if you are going to reply - try and keep up though..
They are in a lose lose situation anyway with you lot fleecing them at every oppurtunity. If you were really interested in helping the guy you could simply ask him a few questions then advise him accordingly instead of spouting a load of regs and legislation at every turn. Incorrect legislation, as DIY gas work is legal as long as you are competent. installing boilers negates your warranty though, that's a fact you should read over and over until it sinks in..
WS you can shove your (alleged) degree right up your ferkin' a%s£! you come on here spouting off your single minded doctrine and your attitude is that if someone disagrees with your opinion they are wrong/a low life and you must/definitely/will be obeyed. ps you can now carry on reading your copy of 'Mein Kampf', old boy!
Why cannot the original poster, consult a corgi dog, and establish a point for the new boiler. Flue terminations, blow off, and condensate drain,these are pretty basic to say the least. Plus paper work comes with boilers stating these dimentions, terminations. If he is fitting a wall mounted unit, is there a problem with him attaching the flow and return, cold and hot water supplies to the jig ?. I really dont want to go into the legalities of gas installs, as they are extremely grey, corgi reg. or not. I cannot see a problem for this poster to install the vast majority himself, and dependant on his abilities, seek guidance, from a competant gas installer. The poster mentions that he is capable of most plumbing. If he is not totally aufay with gas pipe sizing, and all aspects of gas work, then as he has said, he will get someone in to undertake the work. My advice would be to contact a rgi, and work alongside of him. He will not be happy if you have leaks on your wet side of the system though, and may well leave that to you. I think that your proposed idea is viable, but would take on board advice from others dependant on your experience and abilities.
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WS you can shove your (alleged) degree right up your ferkin' a%s£! No can do I'm afraid,I need it on display in my office to show my clients how clever I am > you come on here spouting off your single minded doctrine and your attitude is that if someone disagrees with your opinion they are wrong/a low life and you must/definitely/will be obeyed. ps you can now carry on reading your copy of 'Mein Kampf', old boy!
well that's shut 'im up! Boo. !!!!!!!!! probably too busy getting off over pics of combi boilers....:^O
T482 Tell me you are on day release ?. You sound like a long over waited aircraft number comming in to land !.
Didnt realise that a little question of mine sparks off a such "debate" Neverless, the boiler will be resited to the loft as there's no room for it else where in the house! I know the combi will require 22mm gas feed with a reducer to 15mm at combi gas entry point. The flute will have to be vertical and go through the roof wont be no more than 1.5m. I'll have to find a suitable drain point that is not too far away. probably to the soil pipe or rain gutter if it's allowed!
well that's shut 'im up! Boo. !!!!!!!!! probably too busy getting off over pics of combi boilers....:^O Coronation Street had finished...he was recording Eastenders....
Didnt realise that a little question of mine sparks off a such "debate" Neverless, the boiler will be resited to the loft as there's no room for it else where in the house! I know the combi will require 22mm gas feed with a reducer to 15mm at combi gas entry point. The flute will have to be vertical and go through the roof wont be no more than 1.5m. I'll have to find a suitable drain point that is not too far away. probably to the soil pipe or rain gutter if it's allowed! combi will require a 22mm gas entry feed, depending onthe route and number of elbows it may require 28mmfrom the meter to the boiler. Vertical flue is ok but review roof position in relations to manufacturers and flue regs. Condensate into a soil pipe is ok...
Walterfilter, I have no problems with people taking the mick, I find it humourous, You are correct on pipe sizing for gas, please state gas pipe sizes, lengths, bends, elbows and "T" s feeding numerous units, Just wondering what you come up with, I can give you prospective ideals if you would like.
....Jilted John lyrics???? Excellent - thanks for the memory, T482! Bit surreal - or were you just trying to lighten the atmosphere of this rather tense thread?
They are in a lose lose situation anyway with you lot fleecing them at every oppurtunity. If you were really interested in helping the guy you could simply ask him a few questions then advise him accordingly instead of spouting a load of regs and legislation at every turn. Incorrect legislation, as DIY gas work is legal as long as you are competent. installing boilers negates your warranty though, that's a fact It is not a fact at all. It is nonsense!!!
installing boilers negates your warranty though, that's a fact It is not a fact at all. It is nonsense!!! tut tut, there you go again - check the manufacturers before spouting your hopes (not truths)... WS grow up or shut up, having to admit you are wrong sometimes will do your Karma good...........
There seems to be plenty of interest in this thread by professionals trying to deter diyers from saving money. So, as for installing a boiler, yes, legally you can do it and it’s not rocket science to do it properly with reference to a few tech publications, some look up tables and a basic ability to plumb and wire it. Indeed some of the professional installations I have seen lead me to question the ability of the ‘so called’ professionals who undertook the work.
Maybe. But as 13 years have passed, i imagine he either installed the boiler, had somebody install it, blew himself to pieces, or died of old age.
I am sure if a homeowner actually was somehow wonderful at plumbing, heating, gas pipe sizing, electrics plus the building work, they would already possess qualifications in such work. Or already be in a well paid job to be able to pay a plumber a decent wage to do the work properly. Personally I wouldn’t trust nor want a customer to do any of the plumbing. Plenty of sensible customers out there who are not miserable. Competent, only applies to qualified or previously qualified people, not the ‘I can do plumbing’ dreamers.