im bored,and after reading some comments in the kitchen forum i thought i'd start a plunge saw debate.... s. bury and joelp said they dont get the whole guide rail saw thing so can they be convinced otherwise. i think they are missing out but hope your not offended by me naming you 2 guys. So why do we love them and why could we not live without one??? ive only last week had my own saw but was converted a while back when my workmate bought the festool. so the mass debate is open..... post away your opinions.