Changing lounge ceiling lights

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by oChrisUKo, Dec 29, 2022.

  1. oChrisUKo

    oChrisUKo New Member

    Hi all

    I’m a newbie on changing my lounge ceiling lights and just need some advice please

    my old ceiling lights has a different connector / terminal other than my new ceiling lights I just purchased from B&Q

    Now my question is, how do I connect my lights to the ceiling and do I keep the 4 a side terminal connector that’s already there seeing as there’s more wires?

    would it be safe to take off the 3 block terminal on the new lights and keep the 4 block with the extra red wire?

    If someone could draw a diagram or explain - this would be very much appreciated

    many thanks

    New ceiling lights connection

    Old (current) ceiling lights appears to have extra red wire

  2. terrymac

    terrymac Screwfix Select

    If you have access above the ceiling ,you should consider tidying up the wiring into a maintenance free junction box,and adding a short length of 3 core flex from it and down into your new light fitting.
    If you don't have access...... The cables outer sheathing should really come through the ceiling ,the individual conductors made shorter and terminated into the fittings connector block. You could cut off one of the 4 off the old terminal strip and use that ,sat loose within the new fittings base.
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2022
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  3. MGW

    MGW Screwfix Select

    In Europe they use the switch box as a junction box, in UK we use the ceiling rose as a junction box, so we have one extra wire, we have both permanent line and switched line.

    Swapping the junction block for a new bit cut off a connector strip with 4 blocks is common, but to squeeze them into the space is hard, so a lighting junction box upload_2022-12-29_12-4-59.png allows you to combine all the cables to one before you add weight of lamp.

    The other method is to use a plug in ceiling rose upload_2022-12-29_12-7-10.png I used the one shown as it has a hook which suited my lamp, there are others, but likely will not help with your lamp.

    There are maintenance free junction boxes, that means no screws, but depends on size of hole what will fit through it.

    Technically a junction should need a key or tool to access, and it could be claimed using tape does not comply, however you need a tool to remove floor boards or lamp to access the taped joint, so it is I know very often joined without using a proper junction box.
  4. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Screwfix Select

  5. oChrisUKo

    oChrisUKo New Member

    Thanks all
    I have taken the white connector off the new lights and used the old one (4 port) and just inserted the Blue, brown and earth cable into the ceiling ones

    the lights appear to be connected and working well..

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