Chelsea Manning

Even if MMCC is nonsense, who can argue against the brilliant developments in renewable energy sources? To be less dependent on the likes of Russia and the Middle East for our fuels? To have fresher cleaner air to breathe?

It's a win-win as far as I am concerned now. Even if CC is natural, we have still made a good decision to cut back on Foss Fuels.
 
Jackoftrades said:
Yeah, lets burn more coal and use more petrol

It doesnt hurt anything does it
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Would they be the natural resources that nature supplies for us or shall we use man made power that could kill us all.

The largest proportion of this planet is water, the biggest contributor of CO2 gases is water. Let's drain the planet's to save it. :p:p:p:p:p
 
proby said:
You didn't mention gas I bet you have the heating on this morning, technology is there to capture co2 from coal burning now.
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An answer worthy of Kools on a gawd thread...
 
Phil the Paver said:
Would they be the natural resources that nature supplies for us or shall we use man made power that could kill us all.

The largest proportion of this planet is water, the biggest contributor of CO2 gases is water. Let's drain the planet's yo save it. :p:p:p:p:p
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So what you are saying is that it doesnt matter if we burn fossil fuels?
 
proby said:
I did vote brexit, I would not have voted trump as they say on those useless training courses to assume is to make as *** off you
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Of course you wouldn't have...

You clearly like what he's about. You are clearly on the same thinking as he. But, of course, you wouldn't have voted for him... :rolleyes:
 
Phil the Paver said:
Would they be the natural resources that nature supplies for us or shall we use man made power that could kill us all.
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Is that a serious point, Phil? Or you being light-hearted?

In case it's the former, tell us how many deaths have occurred from the generation of Nuclear Power, and a rough estimate of those from the use of Fossil Fuels.
 
proby said:
You didn't mention gas I bet you have the heating on this morning, technology is there to capture co2 from coal burning now.
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Yes I have the heating on, gently.

I have ensured my house is as well insulated as I can make it too.

But it doesnt mean i am not hurting the planet. I try to be aware of my responsibilities and my footprint on the world, and look out for others too.

I dont waste any fuel. I try to buy locally where possible, my small attempt at anti globilisation. Others happily use internet shopping to buy everything they can, regardless of the fuel cost, and making other countries wealthier than us at the same time.

But Im not a true brit am I, im 1 of those damned liberals !
 
Devil's Advocate said:
Of course you wouldn't have...

You clearly like what he's about. You are clearly on the same thinking as he. But, of course, you wouldn't have voted for him... :rolleyes:
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Assuming again, he's an odious person no I wouldn't have voted for him.
 
Jackoftrades said:
So what you are saying is that it doesnt matter if we burn fossil fuels?
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Well I suppose they will run out at some point so some of the man made ideas are ok, but let's not forget, most of the ideas bring used are simply being used to generate a very large income for a very few.

But fossil fuel have been used for centuries, the world is billions old so all in all our time on this planet is less than a second as we know it, so us causing irrepairible damage is scare mongering almost on the scale of Brexit.:rolleyes:
 
Devil's Advocate said:
Is that a serious point, Phil? Or you being light-hearted?

In case it's the former, tell us how many deaths have occurred from the generation of Nuclear Power, and a rough estimate of those from the use of Fossil Fuels.
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Death for nuclear power fall out are recorded, number unknow without looking it up.
Death for natural resources is pure speculation, unless you wish to include people who died in house fires caused by a burning ember, of people killed in vehicles power by fossil fuels etc etc.
 
Phil the Paver said:
Well I suppose they will run out at some point so some of the man made ideas are ok, but let's not forget, most of the ideas bring used are simply being used to generate a very large income for a very few.

But fossil fuel have been used for centuries, the world is billions old so all in all our time on this planet is less than a second as we know it, so us causing irrepairible damage is scare mongering almost on the scale of Brexit.:rolleyes:
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Yes right up until the late 1800's all those street lights, cars, planes, central heating, factories, energy plants were working flat out werent they.

So its not really a relatively recent problem is it !
 
Phil the Paver said:
Death for nuclear power fall out are recorded, number unknow without looking it up.
Death for natural resources is pure speculation, unless you wish to include people who died in house fires caused by a burning ember, of people killed in vehicles power by fossil fuels etc etc.
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Even for you phil, thats an unbelievable reply
 
Jackoftrades said:
Yes I have the heating on, gently.

I have ensured my house is as well insulated as I can make it too.

But it doesnt mean i am not hurting the planet. I try to be aware of my responsibilities and my footprint on the world, and look out for others too.

I dont waste any fuel. I try to buy locally where possible, my small attempt at anti globilisation. Others happily use internet shopping to buy everything they can, regardless of the fuel cost, and making other countries wealthier than us at the same time.

But Im not a true brit am I, im 1 of those damned liberals !
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You've proper been taken in by it all haven't you. I bet if you were a women you'd have been out on the streets of London protesting about trump. :p:p
 
Jackoftrades said:
Yes right up until the late 1800's all those street lights, cars, planes, central heating, factories, energy plants were working flat out werent they.

So its not really a relatively recent problem is it !
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??????
 
So now this thread has evolved into a pollution/energy thread, lets go back a little.

Somebody from the "trump is the new saviour" party, please explain to me how repealing the obamacare law is a good move. Especially for the anti establishment person.

Despite all those supporters trumping the move, nobody can say how good the move is. Because its not, is it
 
Phil the Paver said:
You've proper been taken in by it all haven't you. I bet if you were a women you'd have been out on the streets of London protesting about trump. :p:p
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That really shows you in your true light doesnt it.

Do you want to reconsider your position and statement ?
 
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