closing door

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by spindlen, Mar 25, 2005.

  1. panlid

    panlid New Member

    andy your original post was so matter of fact. thing is mate when your talking to trades you have to remember that we talk to know all customers all day and we can spot a guesser anywhere.... ello andy!
     
  2. panlid

    panlid New Member

    andy's doing what he normally does when hes wrong, he blames the vagueness of the question. thing is when you do this for a living they are not as vague(mosrt of the time)
    BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
    WRIGGLE WRIGGLE!
     
  3. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    mdf man

    On thursday (two days ago) I sorted out a 120 year glass balcony door. WHICH HAD DROPPED.

    The door is a 6foot 6, 2foot 9 with 6mm glass in a 2inch frame. IT DID NOT CLOSE (OR) OPEN ITSELF

    I suggest you learn how to hang doors
     
  4. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    handy????????????
     
  5. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Now it is you. You are saying here that the door has dropped from a diagonal point of view. That is, the bracing or toe and heeling direction. I was not. That would be obvious to a professional, need I say more. It's clear in my post what direction I was talking about.
    Read it again, and weep.

    Handyandy - really
     
  6. panlid

    panlid New Member

    It may need lifting at the closer side???
     
  7. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    handy

    your surefire method will NOT sort either problem. either out of vertical or a diagonal drop

    your answer i believe
     
  8. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    give me two seconds, im going to open a bottle
     
  9. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Well don't think I'm going to be here trying to teach you drunkards how to raise doors etc.
    It's obvious to a professional what I was talking about.
    If you don't understand, it just proves my point
    And as I said long ago now, I have done this and proved it.

    Handyandy - really
     
  10. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    back again, bottle opened (its red and spanish) go for it

    im willing to learn why packing the bottom hinge of my 120 year old door that ahd dropped diagonaly would have worked OR why packing the bottom hinge of a door that was out of vertical would have worked.

    In both cases packing the bottom hinge would have put the margins out. in the 120 year old door (being hung on the left hand side) would have jambed the right hand outer edge and the right hand top side. in the case of the door that wasnt vertical it would have jambed in the same places BUT when free of the lining would still have swung open (or) shut
     
  11. Jason123

    Jason123 New Member

    Reposition all hinges to bottom of door, anchor other side of hinge to floor, make winching system for your new draw bridge, for additional security, add a portcullis.
     
  12. Jason123

    Jason123 New Member

    Only other alternative is, you have a poltergeist, to perform exorcism, shave all sensitive areas, and apply copius amounts of Deep Heat, joiners may perform a simpler solution.
     
  13. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    back again, bottle opened (its red and spanish) go
    for it

    im willing to learn why packing the bottom hinge of
    my 120 year old door that ahd dropped diagonaly would
    have worked OR why packing the bottom hinge of a door
    that was out of vertical would have worked.

    In both cases packing the bottom hinge would have put
    the margins out. in the 120 year old door (being hung
    on the left hand side) would have jambed the right
    hand outer edge and the right hand top side. in the
    case of the door that wasnt vertical it would have
    jambed in the same places BUT when free of the lining
    would still have swung open (or) shut

    Firstly, when I suggested packing the bottom hinge, there was NO 120year old door dropped diagonally.
    So in answer to your first question, it wouldn't have worked on your door. Nor did I say it would. Clear ?

    Secondly, who said the original door was out of vertical
    on the face to back plane ? Nobody.

    Now if the door has dropped(pulled away from the top hinge with a little thing called weight)it will be out of vertical on the edges. It may well be already touching at the top(closer edge). Who knows. Not You. Not I.
    Packing the bottom hinge and tightening the top hinge can sort this out. I DID say that.

    If the door was vertically out on the plane that I mentioned, it would cause the door to close by itself.

    Would you like a picture also ?

    Handyandy - really
     
  14. limestone cowboy

    limestone cowboy New Member

    I had this on my workshop door. I took the hinges off, beat them with a hammer until they would only just prise open then refit them. It creaks a bit but it stays where it's told to now.
     
  15. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    handy, raising doors? have you been drinking? ;)

    your method might work for you. BUT............

    if you are working in a flat worth in excess of £2.5m in central london and the margins are unequal (even if the door is 120 years old and weighs around 40 kgs, is almost all glass and has dropped diagonally) AND THEN TRY THE HANYANDY (MDF) APPROACH then you wont get to do any more work.

    NOW try NOT professional
     
  16. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    jason, i love your aproach and limestone, what weight hammer do you suggest
     
  17. limestone cowboy

    limestone cowboy New Member

    I used a 4lb lump hammer. Would I get much work on expensive flats in London?
     
  18. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    handy, your answers are all a single solution to all problems, there is no such thing
     
  19. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    limestone, it has to be a 5lb hammer if you work in flat 34 two floors up with the polish guys
     
  20. limestone cowboy

    limestone cowboy New Member

    They must be rougher than me. I knew it was possible.
     

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