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goldenboy
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To be fair only at the annual DA Impersonators General Meeting
To be fair only at the annual DA Impersonators General Meeting
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chippie244
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That was a busy night, I only chust made it.
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goldenboy
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I was stuck in traffic for ages.
Fillyboy was blocking the road scanning the attendees.
Fillyboy was blocking the road scanning the attendees.
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Lanc
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Aha, chippie 244 just gave himself away by using one of DA's favourite expressions
So he is DA and I claim my £5.......! Now could we give up the DA hunt?
longboat
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I dunno, maybe he did quit. Everyone loves a quiter, right?
Is it possible to reinvent yourself by simply changing ones name, doesn't the premise of 'reinvent' require at least a certain level of change?
Perhaps that was the initial plan, but it soon proved hopelessly impossible so he quit trying?
I'm good champ. Works as busy as I like it, which is as much as I want. I've too many family commitments to be running around like a busy fool.
How's yourself?
Still a paid up member of the 'socialist shirkers party'...?
btiw2
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I haven’t been here much, so I don’t know much about allsorts. Even if DA hasn’t changed, he livens up the forums.
Sociast shirker? Me? That’s fair.
Like you I aim for a good work life balance. Zeros on both sides balance, right?
longboat
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I agree. It has been rather dull around here without his provocations. I'm happy to go with the flow though and from now on will address him as BB.
Stealthy devil trying to fly in under the radar like that.
Yep, most aim for minimum effort applied which results in maximum gain, we'd all work for nothing if that weren't the case, I don't think the typical protestor has quite gathered that yet. Poor sobs.
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fillyboy
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Don't know about you Longs but my sciatica is starting to play up tonight.
btiw2
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The following post is based on no evidence, just prejudice.I agree. It has been rather dull around here without his provocations. I'm happy to go with the flow though and from now on will address him as BB.
Stealthy devil trying to fly in under the radar like that.
Yep, most aim for minimum effort applied which results in maximum gain, we'd all work for nothing if that weren't the case, I don't think the typical protestor has quite gathered that yet. Poor sobs.
I don’t think these typical protesters is what Marx had in mind. Revolution as a middle class day out (bring the Waitrose picnic)?
Workers unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains? But these aren’t any chains, they’re Marx and Spencer chains.
But maybe I’m being unfair. Anyone here ever been on a protest march?
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chippie244
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I went on a Rock Against Racism march in the late 70's
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goldenboy
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I marched against the reduction in size of Wagon Wheels.
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Lanc
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I was recently on holiday in Scotland, and joined in the Scots Independence march in Bannockburn.
A great event, lovely weather, and I was able to walk with the " English for Indy " group. Must say I was surprised that there were so many English folk supporting Scots Independence. Total turnout was about 15 000 according to Scots Police.
Almost all public demonstrations are a waste of time attending. They will normally have little if any influence on whatever or whoever the protest is aimed at.
Can anyone think of any demonstrations in the U.K. that have achieved anything? No doubt there are a few, but not many.
A rally of one or two hundred thousand people is not a lot out of the U.K. population.
Can anyone think of any demonstrations in the U.K. that have achieved anything? No doubt there are a few, but not many.
A rally of one or two hundred thousand people is not a lot out of the U.K. population.
I am not belittling that march or any other, but 15 000 turnout is not very large. I guess it can be more about how much coverage the media give to protests and their organisers.
Don’t get me wrong, if an island had twenty thousand inhabitants and fifteen thousand of them managed to come out on a protest, then people would sit up and take notice. But not out of populations of our countries.
I have been at a couple of protests gatherings that were approx 250 or 300,000. An incredible sight, but achieved little other than was unrefutable evidence of support for the protest.
Although most people attending would have been aware that peaceful protest would gain little.
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goldenboy
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This is a pretty basic interpretation of the function of public demonstrations.
There have been plenty of changes in legislation and policy that have been assisted by public demos.
Hunting ban, Hillsborough, Poll Tax all had substantial public demos.
One could argue that govt policy on foreign military intervention is certainly shaped by the Stop The War march and campaign.
The list of changes in which public demos caused a raise in profile or achieved actual action is pretty long.
80k odd attend Old Trafford for Man Utd games, by your rationale thats their total support. The "only attendees" matter argument in terms of a campaign is patently flawed.
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Allsorts
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Apparently DA was there and came third.
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Lanc
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I like to keep an a point of view mainly to basics.
I never inferred that that number of attendees at any demonstration would be the "total support". (Clearly there are many people totally in agreement of what a particular protest is about, but do not attend because perhaps they never go to protests, or are unable to attend). In fact that is something often overlooked about the actual real support, insignificant or substantial, behind any public demonstration.
But back to my point about the numbers at a demo, - 100 thousand people at the anti Trump demo is certainly an impressive large protest against one man, but not evidence of the demo having the full support of the majority of the 65 million uk residents.
The Poll tax and hunting ban demos were a different entirely to most demos due to the facts there were numerous protests and that they had plenty of support throughout the uk and the government knew to ignore the issues would have been problematic. Protesting about Trump I doubt will achieve anything other than a day out for the participants.
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