Do I have too do this as well!

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by split load, Jul 16, 2006.

  1. Top Trumper

    Top Trumper New Member

    ok so now that we have found out what exactly passes for a joist, can anybody point to a reference for electrical wiring in a loft?
     
  2. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    So, where DO they get routed? :)
     
  3. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    ant, look like you electronically destroyed!
    are you?:)
     
  4. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    ant, look like you electronically destroyed!
    are you?:)

    No not at all, this is a discussion, isn't it?
     
  5. Handy and advance, there is no need for name calling,
    is there? Is this how you usually adress people?

    Advance, peddle yourself out of acting like a child.

    I DONT SUFFER FOOLS GLADLY BOY!
     
  6. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    Handy and advance, there is no need for name
    calling,
    is there? Is this how you usually adress people?

    Advance, peddle yourself out of acting like a
    child.

    I DONT SUFFER FOOLS GLADLY BOY!

    Who even asked you to then? You're not even contributing, so get lost, old hagged man trying to act like a 16yr old on his first ever beer.
     
  7. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    ANT, YOU DEFINATELY, GREEN?
    there is advanced and advanced!
    ONE OF us may help you?:)
     
  8. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    the other one is the lout lol, you're pretty calm
     
  9. ukgeezer

    ukgeezer New Member

    Ant - i try to run cables around the perimeter of the roof space (clipped to top of joist if necessary) and then run in the spaces between rafters to the light/ switch or whatever, again clipped towards the top of the rafter. This way if they want to lay some chipboard for storage it doesnt interfere with cables.

    ukgeezer
     
  10. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    So how do you get your cables across is they cant go through the joist? Lay them on top so that they get damaged when people put things in?

    Smaller joist, smaller hole, whats the difference so that the hole doesnt come closer than 50mm from the top and bottom of the joist. Obviously no Engineers watching.
     
  11. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    OK. In the absence of a 'guide to wiring in lofts' may I suggest that they should be clipped to a fixed plank at the outer edge in the loft space, the plank being notched where a cable needs to come down and the cable then clipped to a joist running 90° from the plank and on to the light fitting/whatever ?

    Or not ?

    That's, 'may I suggest, or not ?'


    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  12. Ripped Off

    Ripped Off New Member

    So, where DO they get routed? :)

    On a running board dear Lisa dear Lisa on a running board its that.

    Ant Most of my jobs have a board which I run & clip the cables to. At convienient point the cable(s) then go to light fitting or switch or whatever. Cables side clipped along the roof truss chord (thats the bit at the bottom). All neat & tidy
     
  13. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    Ant - i try to run cables around the perimeter of the
    roof space (clipped to top of joist if necessary) and
    then run in the spaces between rafters to the light/
    switch or whatever, again clipped towards the top of
    the rafter. This way if they want to lay some
    chipboard for storage it doesnt interfere with
    cables.

    ukgeezer

    Ok geezer, thanks.

    So is there actually enough room to fit the cables at the top of the joist just under where the roof will begin?

    Sounds like adding to exsisting circuits will be difficult on exsisting houses. Running cables up and down here and there sounds a bit long winded to me. The IEE's guide does not mention this what so ever, just mentions joist.
     
  14. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    <the other one is the lout lol, you're pretty calm>

    ADVANCED TO GREEN FOR ME!
    DESTROY!:)
     
  15. Triplock

    Triplock New Member

    The answer to your query is as follows:

    You do not drill holes or notch into any timbers which form the truss frame work. Unlike standard floor joists,
    roof timbers gain their strength through trianglation, and a subsequent reliance on the other timbers for support. The loft floor joists in particular are in tension throughout their length, and any drilling will considerably weaken the integrity of the structure. Therefore, run all cables to the eves, and dip in to each accessory outlet point.

    Triplock
     
  16. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    fxxx, me trip back?:)
     


  17. ADVANCED TO GREEN FOR ME!
    DESTROY!:)

    HE WONT ADMIT HE'S WRONG SPARKLER!
    SORT HIM OUT!
     
  18. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    <the other one is the lout lol, you're pretty
    calm>

    ADVANCED TO GREEN FOR ME!
    DESTROY!:)

    HE WONT ADMIT HE'S WRONG SPARKLER!
    SORT HIM OUT!

    Ok, Fooman in disguise, so you're here to prove people wrong then? Sad man.
     
  19. Triplock

    Triplock New Member

    Hello Advance, still keeping these newbies in their place I hope?

    Trip
     
  20. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    ANT YOU CAME IN ON ADVICE TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! SOON!
    LEARN FORUM FIRST, THEN ADVISE!
    NOW KINDLY, TAKE YOURE GREEN,NESS AND DO ONE?
     

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