Door hanging

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Paul Otter, Feb 24, 2017.

  1. Paul Otter

    Paul Otter Active Member

    I have come up with a cunning plan or so I have thought but most of my business ideas are usually carp when I have slept on them - any thoughts on this.

    There is a massive skills shortage in our industry, a lot of the Eastern European's are going home or not coming so its only going to get worse - or better for us.

    I am lucky as round here there is a lot more work than tradesmen so if you are any good you can pick and chose the prime work, in saying that loads of people need doors hanging and watching MyBuilder etc none of these jobs get picked up, chippies just don't like hanging doors I suppose.

    I am thinking of training someone up, maybe semi retired just to hang doors, specialist employment happens in other businesses like the law and if you think about it we did not really have kitchen fitters until the 1980's or ceramic tillers.

    So, train someone up, they buy there own tools etc and pay them per door on a self employed basis, they have no hassle finding work or chasing money and can work as and when they want.

    What could go wrong? ;-)
  2. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    I personally don't like hanging doors...I can if needs be, but just finished a job that needed 5 doors fitting and 2 hingeing the other way. Had loads of other stuff to do so a Chippie friend recommended one of his mates...guy was **** hot and well worth £40 a door.
  3. wiggy

    wiggy Screwfix Select

    It could work, it would depend on how much your man wants to earn and how many doors you can feed him a week/month.
    I don't like hanging doors either, last set I hung was 7 years ago.
    2 sets of gothic arched double doors, one set had been made to one frame and the other set to the other frame. Delivered with no markings on, trying to pair them up scared me for life.
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  4. Jitender

    Jitender Screwfix Select

    Like fitting doors, fitted fire doors here at my home but they are really heavy so wouldn't like to to theses get back ache.
  5. Paul Otter

    Paul Otter Active Member

    Yes, I think I need someone probably on some sort of a pension ex Police, local authority or services and the doors need to be basic, I can pay £40.00 per door so up and running that's £160.00 a day, not too shabby as a top up.
  6. P. Gee

    P. Gee Active Member

    I like the idea of passing this kind of work on but I'd always be concerned that problems would come back to me. I can go for ages without getting door hanging jobs, but like London buses they all come at once. I've got 13 oak doors to do on one job, 12 on another and 19 fire doors (all with Perko's) to price up this week. That's enough to keep any chippie awake at night!
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  7. Paul Otter

    Paul Otter Active Member

    Yes, I am thinking more about the £25.00 Howdens jobs
  8. wiggy

    wiggy Screwfix Select

    Or a carpentry student at £20 a door.
  9. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    £20 a door...30 doors a day! Where do I sign up?! ;) :D
  10. wiggy

    wiggy Screwfix Select

    Not to worry cgn, I have seen your work :)
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  11. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select


    Look at the quality of fitting you get for £20. Rock solid :cool:
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  12. wiggy

    wiggy Screwfix Select

    You're on to something there, no latches, no locks £££££, when can you start?
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  13. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Now :D I'm desparate! :D
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  14. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Be honest ...does a semi retired person want to hump doors about? :confused:o_Oo_Oo_O:cool::cool:
  15. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    As soon as the person you employ cracks on to you are making money off him humping doors about he will be off on his own.

    What normally happens
  16. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    So would be paying this guy or have him self employed ?

    If he was employed you would have to pay him £54 a day at the minimum wage, plus your costs on top any tax, ni, insurance, pension, ppe, transport, tools you could easily add another £25 a day. So say they hang doors a day at £40 each £160 and you could keep the person going all day, every day then you could at best make £80

    However, out of this you have to deduct your time for managing the person, finding the work, invoicing chasing and then chasing payments etc. Good idea but can't see it being worth the effort
  17. Paul Otter

    Paul Otter Active Member

    A lot of police and ex service can take pensions at 50
  18. Paul Otter

    Paul Otter Active Member

    Self employed I thought and what works out as price work but I decide the price, I agree though is it worth the effort but even if I only make £100.00 net a week that's £5k a year profit
  19. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    And a nice one too!
    These folk sway more toward part time security related work.
  20. dwlondon

    dwlondon Active Member

    So you would effectively be classified as an agency, and you would need to look into how that works.
    Most of us here have worked under such before going self employed. Which is very often why we did turn self employed.

    If a fella wants to work his guts out he can easily join a trade club, pay his dues and be run ragged by landlords, contractors, locksmiths and so on.
    In your later years you just can't keep up that kind of pace.
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