double glazing tool

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by bigbadleo, Feb 26, 2005.

  1. bigbadleo

    bigbadleo Member

    n e 1 know where i could get the thin blade tool to remove upvc glazing slips also, what the name of it? have to reglaze a few units and dont want to prize with screw driver. dosn't look nice?
     
  2. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    double glazing slips?
    you either mean beads or gaskets
    if its beads, you need a 1" scraper cut down so its about 2" long so it's nice and firm
    if its gaskets, you can use the scraper again or a specialist tool that we use in the trade, called a old screwdriver ;)
     
  3. bigbadleo

    bigbadleo Member

    know what u mean used the scaper! but seen one 2 day was more handy like all in one piece... had curved point on it but also flat edge a bit like paint remove for odd shapes only flat if u know what i mean(sorry bout bad description!)
     
  4. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    oh you mean a putty knife,
    use the cut down scraper, i do it for a living and i use the cut down scraper!
     
  5. bigbadleo

    bigbadleo Member

    looked bit broader but more ridged.but just stick 2 scaper thanx.just made it look bit more easier..hate working with old units.well ones that have been butchered by people who smached em then tried to replace em with god knows what
     
  6. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    The other possibility is that it is a moon knife that you saw
    I wouldn't go there, i've seen many a stitches on people due to them!
     
  7. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Chisel - trust me

    Handyandy - really
     
  8. Markybob

    Markybob New Member

    I bought both tools recently, the one that looks like a chisel is called a "bead lifter", and the other is a "glazing shoval", this one is plastic and is for barring the new unit to space.

    The descriptions are on an invoice from the suppliers
     
  9. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    Lol chisel, i'd rather not trust you thanks andy!
    A glazing shovel is used for toeing and healing, little use for anything else
     
  10. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Go on, then. What's wrong with a chisel ?
    It's sharp and will get you into the tight joins, it has a nice straight edge, it has a bevel which helps as a slight lever, it's wide enough not to cause any damage to a frame or bead, or wedge. You don't bang it in, just use it for prying. You don't try and shift the glass with it obviously. What's wrong with a chisel ?

    Handyandy - really
     
  11. Markybob

    Markybob New Member

    Whats wrong with the proper tool. It has slightly radiused edges that dont marr the plastic, my chisel have very unforgiving corners that would mark the beading, well they did, thats why I got hold of the proper tools. ?

    And I suppose you live in london and drive a hummer?
     
  12. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    Go on, then. What's wrong with a chisel ?
    It's sharp and will get you into the tight joins, it
    has a nice straight edge, it has a bevel which helps
    as a slight lever, it's wide enough not to cause any
    damage to a frame or bead, or wedge. You don't bang
    it in, just use it for prying. You don't try and
    shift the glass with it obviously. What's wrong with
    a chisel ?

    Handyandy - really

    is your chisel 1.5mm thick?....that's what's wrong with it
    sure, a chisel will work on some systems with a more square edged bead, try it on a flat chanmfer bead and you're asking for trouble.
     
  13. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

  14. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    bigbadleo, the one at the top of that link is a moon knife, is that what you saw?
     
  15. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    No problem. Fitted windows for a few years, here and there, and chisel was main tool for removing beads. Mainly upvc and aluminium. Had more trouble getting some beads in than getting them out. Horses for courses, I suppose, but I always had no problems using the chisel.
    Never ruined any beads. I've carefully prised sealed units with the chisel, if you know what you're doing, it's not a big problem. Wouldn't recommend that to anyone else though.
    Made my own tool for pushing in wedge because the c**p ones you could buy were, well, c**p.

    Handyandy - really
     
  16. Rojjie

    Rojjie New Member

    Yeah, you and i could probably use a chisel no problem.
    I'll do it, if i cant be bothered to dig deep in my bag for my bead scraper, but for someone that doesn't do a lot of it a scraper is always best.
    I go to lots of diy customers that are having trouble getting beads in or out, you would not beleive the mess they make.
    I also get jobs where i'm called in to do the bays on the house, and they've diy'd the flat windows thinking they can't go far wrong. half the time the beads are hanging out or not in properly, they've just given up.
    I just hope they dont press to hard when they clean their windows, the glass will be on the floor otherwise!
     
  17. Markybob

    Markybob New Member

  18. bigbadleo

    bigbadleo Member

    yeap thats the one just gose to show the different thing ppl use to hack at frames no names given;)lol
    just don't like to leave any marks on frames etc if jobs worth doing and get right tool for job (know what i mean)
     
  19. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    yeap thats the one just gose to show the different
    thing ppl use to hack at frames no names given;)lol
    just don't like to leave any marks on frames etc if
    jobs worth doing and get right tool for job (know
    what i mean)

    It's up to you, sir, but if you ask me, that pry-bar on the left looks a bl00dy sight more dangerous to use than my chisel.

    Handyandy - really
     
  20. You could use a Schuco cap remover
     

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