So, a mate of mine who won’t touch the simplest of diy leccie jobs (which is fair enough), asked me to swap over a metal face plate switch for new, the rocker had become ‘gritty’ so time for replacement Switch was in place few years ago when they moved in, my mate has honestly never touched the wiring Look at the lash up here with earth wire, neatly terminated to back box, metal faceplate totally not earthed, plastic screw lugs If it wasn’t dangerous, it would actually be funny
I wonder why AMD 3 ........METAL consumer units 2018...are not required to have a flying lead to the front cover from the earth bar ? If it's good enough for the unit in 2018 its good enough for a socket/switch ? RS
I'm trying to stay awake. Isn't there anything more exciting than an earth not quite in the right place? *Yawn* ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz
Not stating that the post is interesting in any way but, think uv missed the point here It’s not as simple as the earth being ‘not quite in the right place’ Back box has 2 plastic lugs and fitted with metal face plate - which therefore has no earth connection to it Would you be happy with this standard of work bazza ?
Ok, so there’s nothing wrong at all with that instalation then ? Metal face plate not earthed Back box with plastic lugs but earthed So I’ve wasted my time, even more so as a favour for a mate by removing earth from box and attaching to faceplate Shock horror - I then wasted even more by attaching a fly lead from faceplate earth to box Silly me, should have changed over faceplate and left earth as it was as it’s totally acceptable and I’m the one that’s made a mistake Then given my mate a £60 bill Sloppy work is an illness, same as condoning it
DIYDave do you by any chance use a fruit phone?, just wondering, I just seem to see loads of pics and vids, here and on FB that are incorrectly rotated by 90`. Just an observation, and just curious
Yep Rulland, exactly that, a mobile telephone device of the apple variety Just find it easier to both take pics on it (as always in pocket) and then upload from phone to such sites as this When viewing post on phone, picture always looks correctly orientated, no idea why that happens, I’m not that tech minded
Look, I’m only diy me and not trying to be above my station or some kind of smart *** But yep, as a crime, I would say it’s pretty serious yeah. More than likely done by another diy’er. More than likely simply swapping a plastic face plate for a metal one, hence no problem with earth being parked in back box and correct in that situation But say with the metal faceplate the line came loose and made contact with faceplate. Now faceplate is live and waiting for someone to touch it Would that cause the mcb/rcbo or whatever to trip ? I don’t think so, faceplate would remain live If I’m wrong, will happily admit it Just find sloppy/dangerous work annoying in all walks of life and trades and you can tell by some of the posts on here, the OP really hasn’t got a clue and actually, giving limited advice remotely from a forum can be dangerous This is highlighted repeatly on the sparky forum. Posts such as ‘running power from house to my shed’ Yeah it’s all so easy, run a bit of T&E along fence, connect both ends and hey presto, uv got lights and power at sockets - it’s all that easy and simple and totally safe mate Anyway, I’m out now, family afternoon, have a good day urself mate
Flexible Bond Reg Bazz..aye the flyer should be flexible which equates in most cases to green/yellow 1.5mm stranded. We all know the use of tri rated when indicated..however in the humble back box flyer situation this would be ott and 1.5mm single stranded would be hunky dory. Sorry but regs are regs at the end of the day, and of course will always be open to interpretation differentials.