Electric Cars

A caboose is a railway car and travels on rails, there are occasions when they are loaded onto lowloaders for road transport to a different rail depot.

 

This link is getting on for 5 years old and nothing has come of this.

So 5 years ago Musk was giving figures (as per the link) as to the cost savings over diesel, something he still cannot confirm today.

I am not convinced and will only be convinced when they come into reality which I doubt will be in my lifetime.

 

I reckon Stevie Grahame and the Outback Truckers would need some fair old batteries.

 

Shouldn't that be "fair dinkum "?

 

I agree, bit I see no action to resolve the issue. I would expect to see new sources of power being developed and built, more that the wind farms we see. On top of this I would expect my local area network to be 'beefed up' with larger cables, more transformers and an improved high voltage local distribution. None of this is happening, all of this takes time. If we are to adopt the zero carbon vision of the future, we should have started along this path 5 years ago. I have travelled in Scandinavia where electricity is mainly Hydro and very cheap, they use it for heating and electric cars. Their electricity infrastructure, even rurally, puts ours to shame, everything, cables and transformers are 3 times bigger than ours and more frequent, all of the houses have 3 phase supplies. What do we have, an outdated system run by private companies that see no further than the profits for the coming year and only plan how to keep the shareholders on board. The link you provide is from the source that is responsible for provision of our supplies, I think they have an 'axe to grind' and their figures and presentation may have been affected by their closeness to this issue, in short we call it propaganda.

 

Very true, to go 'carbon neutral' if it's even possible, will literally cost trillions.

Even with the available funds, whatever we do now will be too little, too late.

And it's obvious who's going to have to pay for it, the consumer.

 

Tesla are already delivering Tesla Semi trucks. Pepsico are using them. They can go 500 miles fully laden. Convoy mode may take a little longer. There is some conjecture that Tesla have gone quiet on autopilot and convoy mode lest businesses be put off ordering with the idea that drivers might become obsolete.

 

Replace with trailer.

 

Having looked at this I am not convinced. I will be when someone independently tests the range with a typical diesel semi load. It would appear that Pepsico will be using these for short range, circa 100 mile, trips. What do we mean by "fully laden" in terms of weight carried?

I note that there is still little information on the actual "load" in weight that the Tesla can carry for that 500 miles. It would appear to me, maybe I am being cynical, that whenever Musk talks about this he uses "capacity" rather that actual load weight, not really the same thing. Quite often the figure quoted is the GCW which is not the same thing as load weight and just about meaningless for transport companies.

When Musk actually gives the range with a specified load weight, not GCW, I will hold up my hands in surrender.

 

The only way the UK is ever going to be carbon neutral is by buying carbon credits (or whatever they're called these days).
In other words, the UK will carry on emitting more carbon than it captures, but will use some developing countries' less carbon emitting way of life to pretend that it's greener than it is.
Complete con job.

 

Con job indeed. I can't believe the bs carp that some people seem to believe. We're just a minor blot on a planet that is between ice ages after all

 

It's badly written. They will be using them to take "chips2 (crisps) several hundred miles but they only need to take soda 100 miles. They can take a full truck of soda 500 miles.

 

WHy? WHat's to stop development of wind, solar etc?

 

There are simply too many of us, too many homes to heat, too many cars and other vehicles to charge, too much industry that is completely reliant on electricity, too many trains, etc , etc.
There is nowhere near enough space to put up enough wind and solar systems, mostly because we're all guilty of being NIMBYs.
Apart from anything else, 7 years is nowhere near enough time to put everything in place that needs to be in place for the UK to be carbon neutral.
Of course that doesn't stop the politicians and their hogwash pretending that it's doable, but since when do they ever tell the truth?
When do you know that a politician is lying? When he/she/it opens his/her/it's mouth?

 

Where does it say that it can take a full truck load of soda 500 miles on a single charge and how much does that load weigh? Or to put it another way, what is the load in Kg that the semi can carry for 500 miles on a single charge? This is what is intriguing me, why is it that Tesla cannot answer this simply since it is such a basic question?

I have looked all over for this information, which is pretty fundamental, I cannot find it quoted anywhere by Tesla.

If you have a link that's great.

 

While we're waiting for a reply, this is well worth a watch.

 

Yes, this was one of the videos that I watched.

 

This is a good explainer of the reportage:

https://electrek.co/2022/12/16/tesla-semi-pepsi-exec-strange-comments-about-electric-truck-range/

Where things got strange is when O’Connell, according to the article, talked about the range of the Tesla Semi:
PepsiCo’s new Semis can haul Frito-Lay food products for around 425 miles (684 km), but for heavier loads of sodas, the trucks will do shorter trips of around 100 miles (160 km), O’Connell said.
O’Connell reportedly stated that the company’s Tesla Semi trucks still have 20% charge after carrying loads of chips over 425 miles.
But it’s unclear why the trucks only do 100-mile trips with loads of sodas.
Tesla has clearly stated that the Tesla Semi can achieve a range of over 500 miles with a full load at 82,000 lbs.

We reported that, unfortunately, Tesla hasn’t released the weight of the truck, and therefore, we don’t know the actual load capacity of the Tesla Semi, but we know that it can travel 500 miles at full capacity.
It’s true that a trailer filled with chips is going to be lighter than a trailer filled with sodas, but at the end of the day, they are both limited to 82,000 lbs in an electric truck as per regulations. Therefore, Tesla Semi should be able to travel 500 miles with a trailer of sodas at capacity.

Then in the comments someone posts the full speech:

“The Semis will haul Frito-Lay food products for around 425 miles (684 km), but for heavier loads of sodas, the trucks will initially do shorter trips of around 100 miles (160 km), O'Connell said. PepsiCo then will also use the Semis to haul beverages in the "400 to 500 mile range as well," O'Connell said.”

SO there you go. It's about plans not ablity.

 

Yes, I read that one as well. I also picked up on the quote where O'Connell said they plan to haul beverages in the 400 to 500 mile range, but crucially they still give us no idea as to the weight of those beverages that they will be carrying those distances. So still no idea as to how much load the Tesla semi can carry for the much quoted range.

 

It must be nice to be able to accept without question another persons information without first considering if it is correct. So it's 'easy' to upgrade all of the transformers on the system, 'Easy' to increase the size of the overhead conductors on the pylons. Sorry, I don't accept his at all.