Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by facilities, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. Yes. Sure, thanks.

    How many times must I tell you there's a difference betwixt bullying and calling folk for what they are? When what they are is not very good.
  2. Silly mistake. Even I don't write out 'Brexit' in its entirety.
  3. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    I don't quite believe you just said that. I think that's a very poor attempt to justify your behaviour on here in the past few weeks/ months, simply because they don't agree with you.
  4. facilities

    facilities Guest

    yer just can't help yerself can ya :rolleyes:
  5. retiredsparks

    retiredsparks Super Member

    Not having read all...the previous 20 pages....a saying that comes to mind is
    ' Never argue or discuss anything...or try to reason with ........a moron'
  6. facilities

    facilities Guest

    Back to the Wifebeating :(

    Jack enjoy your break in Belgium, I worked in Antwerp for about a year many years ago and had a wonderful time

    I do not expect you to answer any of this until your return

    DA thank you for your well intentioned advice in post 363 whereby If I modified the terms to a choice between my being a slapper or joker that would win favour with Jack, your attempt At mediation is admirable.

    DA this was point 4 from your post 360

    4) JoT - as I hoped and also expected - was not swayed by my post an iota, but stuck to his moral guns and made it clear he didn't agree with me. (I am proud. And not surprised; he is a fellow Remainer, after all, and therefore naturally imbued with honestly and integrity).

    Don’t you get it? of course Jack stuck to his moral guns and didn’t agree with you, he couldn’t cos if he did in his world he would have been made to look foolish and gullible, and he finds that totally unacceptable,

    You may have seen the latest response from Jack and the goalposts have been moved to the issue now being that of my dishonesty which is the cornerstone of any real person, it appears Jack is utterly disgusted at the thought of my dishonesty it almost looks like he would prefer I were indeed a bully and wifebeater.

    Was I dishonest, well during a spoof or wind up telling porky pies pies is part of the game otherwise a windup/spoof becomes rather difficult.

    I will put my opinion in here, and it is that Jack who looks like he has accepted that it was a wind up, finds it very difficult to admit he was hoodwinked and leave it at that, so he is looking for a way out and that seems to be attacking my honesty in a misguided attempt to save face

    Here is a timeline of events, hopefully Jack will not come back with time wasting distractions of no relevance (somehow I doubt it)

    Jack you asked me in post 340 “where any of the Brexiteers aware that it was a wind up my answer to you in post 344 was that when I put the original post on where slapping was mentioned no Brexiteers were involved, this I maintain is true

    In your post 346 you say my post 344 was dishonest because in DA’s post 327 he admits he had been tipped off, around the time DA was tipped off 2 Brexiteers were also tipped off all within 2 hours of each other, and this was all after I penned the offending post 286

    So my answer to you Jack in post 344 was truthful

    You fully believed (or led us to believe) that other Brexiteers were involved from the outset of the wind up/conspiracy I consider I have now fully explained that they were not

    I now believe I have fully explained the dishonesty issue I have been accused of, but unfortunately Jack I think that you will have difficulty walking away from this without having the last word in a misguided attempt to exonerate yourself and save face even though all the evidence has now been put before you

    One more thing should there be some doubt about did he or didn’t he slap the wife, do you honestly believe I would come on here and mention it if the deed had really been done?
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  7. Oh gawd! I don't need to justify anything!

    You twit!
  8. Amen.

    (So don't argue).

    Hang on a minute... :-(
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  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    B****t ?
  11. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    The words of a hypocrite.
  12. Och, too easy to reply in kind :rolleyes:.

    (Instead, just imagine what I could say about you...)

    A wee apology, tho' - my "I don't need to justify anything!" remark came across not quite as I intended. What I mean is, I don't believe anything I've said required - or requires - further justification.

    I'm not trying to avoid being considered a 'bully' by you or anyone else (by now you should have a pretty good grasp of the little regard I hold any of your 'thoughts') by claiming my remarks were just me 'calling it as it is', only that my remarks were me calling it as it is, so take that in whatever way you wish. Ideally as badly as possible.

    I said 'em. I meant 'em. They spoke the truth based on what the targets have presented as evidence of themselves on here. I don't call someone 'ignorant' for no reason. I don't call anyone's behaviour jingoistic, biased, dishonest, devious, slimy, conniving... you get the idea, unless they have given cause.

    'Bully'! lol...
  13. You just say that once more, pal - I'm warning you.
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  14. fillyboy

    fillyboy Screwfix Select

    No, you call people ignorant, jingoistic, biased, dishonest, slimy and conniving simply because they disagree with you and they don't share the same viewpoint. Sadly, by doing so, you qualify for the label of all of the above insults, you are by definition all of the above and worse, yuck, I'd hate to be you.
  15. facilities

    facilities Guest

    DA I’m saddened by your response in defending Jack, can’t you see I’m trying to help the guy face up to his condition, it’s not healthy to back someone up who is in denial (I have to be careful here as I am not referring to Remoaners as a group although some may think I maybe)

    You are probably aware that Denial is at best, a coping mechanism but in reality only postpones the need to deal with their condition, now I agree some people need more time than others to face the realities of a given situation, but I was hopeful that Jack would get there, he needs to seek out the counsel of wise, caring and supportive people who he can trust to help rebuild his self-esteem which has taken a battering of late and as I have said agreeing with his actions at this point is not helpful.

    I realise you mean well but try to take a step back and let him answer for his actions as I said in my post I don’t expect an answer till after his Belgium break

    Now the guys on this forum know he has dug an hole for himself and prior to his trip to Belgium was still digging, this is character building and he should have been left to it the hard way, but now with your response you have taken his shovel away and have given him a JCB to continue,

    I realise you are his cyber mate but a good mate would help him confront his demons only then will he come out tother side as a well rounded member of the human race

    I sincerely hope this helps you in future before you jump In with your size 12s
  16. fillyboy

    fillyboy Screwfix Select

    Well, that's you in the lurch if your catflap goes wrong.
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  17. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    Exactly DA, you call others, conniving, ignorant, biased, dishonest, slimey ( and worse) simply because their view differs from yours. You attempt to come across as an intellectual, but you fail, immediately you resort to the insults, some not even thinly veiled. You think your clever DA, but honestly, you come across as someone lacking the smallest measure of intellect or intelligence. You call anyone who disagrees with you views, mock them and put them down at every opportunity. Just keep it up DA,, just keep it up.
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  18. Did anyone hear a strange buzzing noise?
  19. I will I will.

    thank you
  20. I wasn't defending JoT - he doesn't need it.

    I was giving my interpretation of the event, and answering what I see as your somewhat contrived & evasive response and 'justification' for it.

    If it helps, I stand 100% by my orange reply to your post.

    And you also probably have a good idea what I think of your utangs and their 'contributions'. (If it helps, it's a lot less than I think of you. But, I'm losing warmth...)

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