Ethical or not?

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by NikT, Nov 6, 2006.

  1. NikT

    NikT New Member

    Having just sold our house (if it don't go **** up),
    the buyers will want a PIR cert.
    Question is: If I do the testing and certification is it acceptable for me, as the vendor, to issue this cert.:O

    Would you accept a cert off a vendor in these circumstances?
    Or do I just pay a mate to do it independently?;-)
     
  2. sim

    sim Member

    Having just sold our house (if it don't go **** up),
    the buyers will want a PIR cert.
    Question is: If I do the testing and certification is
    it acceptable for me, as the vendor, to issue this
    cert.:O

    Would you accept a cert off a vendor in these
    circumstances?
    Or do I just pay a mate to do it independently?;-)

    Nik, if the buyers want a PIR then they should instruct an independant Electrician to carry this out at their own cost.

    After all would you trust a private car seller to cary out a HPI check and take it on face value that there was no outstanding finance or serious damage.????
     
  3. NikT

    NikT New Member

    Nik, if the buyers want a PIR then they should
    instruct an independant Electrician to carry this out
    at their own cost.

    After all would you trust a private car seller to
    cary out a HPI check and take it on face value that
    there was no outstanding finance or serious
    damage.????

    Thanks, that's my point: the trust aspect.
    Just reading through the **** the solictors posted.
    I don't need to provide a PIR, only certs for work carried out after 31st dec 2004, Part P both notifiable and non notifiable! MWC and Building control final certs.
    That is sensible but is N/A in this situation.
    But the property is only 9 years old and i haven't got an EIC.

    However, do I smooth the way and issue a PIR myself or get a mate to do it?
     
  4. sinewave

    sinewave Screwfix Select

    But the property is only 9 years old and i haven't
    got an EIC.



    Tell em they've still got 1 year left of the NHBC Warranty!

    (Shame that's worthless in reality, but hey!)
     
  5. NikT

    NikT New Member

    Tell em they've still got 1 year left of the NHBC
    Warranty!

    (Shame that's worthless in reality, but hey!)

    :^O

    We both know the NHBC warranty is not worth the paper its written on. But do they know this?
    Am I getting paranoid??
     
  6. NikT

    NikT New Member

    However, do I smooth the way and issue a PIR myself
    or get a mate to do it?

    Cheers Sine.

    All above board.

    Anymore feedback appreciated.
     
  7. sinewave

    sinewave Screwfix Select

    If your genuinely happy with the install then I'd have no problem getting a 'Sparky Mate' ;) to provide a PIR report even if you conduct it with him.

    It will look far better if the PIR report comes from a 'Third Party' rather than using your company name!


    However, as has been stated it really is down to the Purchaser to instigate and pay for this, not you! :O
     
  8. NikT

    NikT New Member

    Cheers Sine.

    That's what i thought.
    Owe you one mate!
     
  9. Ripped Off

    Ripped Off New Member

    If the answer is N/A then its N/A. Dont volunteer for something thats not asked for.
    If there has been no work why worry. Its not your problem unless they ask for a PIR. Dont suggest it if they come up with a requirement they get a spark or you say you'll get it done. Then ask your M8
     
  10. NikT

    NikT New Member

    I'll keep quiet.
    But, if they ask for a PIR, I am not obliged to provide one.
    However, I can provide one signed by me.
    The question is; Would you trust a cert signed by the vendor?
     
  11. NikT

    NikT New Member

    Yes or no??:O
     
  12. sim

    sim Member

    Yes or no??:O

    Another way around this is, if you have 2391 inspection and testing and public liability/proffesional indemnity insurance, would be to carry out a PIR yourself and attatch copies of your 2391 and PLI/PII certs.

    Then if the buyer or their solicitors question the report, or if any defects are found after the purchase then they would have your indemnity insurance to fall back on.
     
  13. ringmain

    ringmain Member

    The purchasers will not want a PIR. You are worrying yourself too much because you know too much.

    There is no way I would permit purchasers of my house to send round an electrician for a PIR - do you really want somebody with whom you have no contract (and so cannot complain if he doesn't put it back together correctly) to undo all your electrical contacts? Moreover, electrical contacts are not supposed to be undone.

    Copper work hardens whilst it is being screwed down in the connector. Therefore if you undo the joint, you must cut off 5mm and redo.
     
  14. NikT

    NikT New Member

    Thanks for the replies chaps.:)
     

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