frog up or down?

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by brownballs, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. brownballs

    brownballs New Member

    whats the right way or best way to lay bricks?
     
  2. Guest

    UP.
     
  3. Bloke who's great

    Bloke who's great New Member

  4. sinewave

    sinewave Screwfix Select

    Ignore the thicko's OP!

    It's sideways!
     
  5. Very Likeable Bloke

    Very Likeable Bloke New Member

    Down!

    down with the frogs!

    AGP

    Another Great Post
     
  6. Mr GrimNasty

    Mr GrimNasty Active Member

    "whats the right way or best way to lay bricks?"

    Cheap restaurant, lots of wine, tell 'em you've got terminal cancer......
     
  7. yellowfunbus

    yellowfunbus New Member

    Frog up is stronger.
     
  8. Catdigger

    Catdigger New Member

    Frog up def better, as stated its stronger and you get more of a key between courses. Also drilling into bricks laid frog down you may hit a void as all the pug does not fill the frog void.... Does not save that much pug really and is easy to level courses as you have more surface area to work with........
     
  9. ian anderson

    ian anderson New Member

    Easier to lay frog down and uses slightly less mortar.

    Frog up is slightly stronger and no voids but more difficult to spread mortar faster.

    I challenge anyone who says that they can lay frog up as fast as frog down............

    P.s. London brick issued a directive decades ago stating that frog down is absolutely fine and has no known problems for normal domestic brickwork on two storey work.

    So there ;)
     
  10. Goodwill

    Goodwill Member

    Brownie,

    Your first consideration should be the strength of the brickwork and if you think about it frog uppermost ensures no voids.
     
  11. ian anderson

    ian anderson New Member

    Wot choo got against voids eh?

    Some of my best memories are full of em :)
     
  12. T

    T Member

    frog up is the right way, some bricks have a weather face, if layed frog down will cause problems later. frogs were formed to cheapen bricks, brickies lay em frog down if beds are tight to keep to gauge, but always frog up
     
  13. m4rts

    m4rts New Member

    was taught in brickie course that first course of bricks has to be layed with frog down for supporting the rest of brick wall....
     
  14. N. Green

    N. Green New Member

    Eh!??
    During this hot weather we've built 2 houses using "old looking" frogged bricks. They've got that much suction there's no way you could lay 'em frog up or you couldn't keep to gauge.
    I suppose frog up would be stronger though especially with a deep frog.
    No frogged brick is as strong, as bricks with holes in though (they all "key" together)
     
  15. ian anderson

    ian anderson New Member

    Trust me, regardless of what is 'correct', the 'standard' way of laying them is frog down and thats from 25 years of site work and seen millions of em laid this way.

    Agree that a tiny proportion of frogged bricks have a 'weathered face' and must be laid the 'proper way'.

    :)
     
  16. Mr GrimNasty

    Mr GrimNasty Active Member

    Toads - in or out the hole?
     
  17. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    What a load of rubbish, this whole thread!

    Frogs/dogs down, my ****.

    How the hell can you level a brick properly like that(sitting on four edges of say ½") ?

    It's madness. And you cannot possibly knock the brick down and get the correct amount of squash-out for a clean joint.

    Flat bottom, makes sense.

    ***.


    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  18. Removed 4

    Removed 4 New Member

    What a load of rubbish, this whole thread!
    Frogs/dogs down, my *.

    Frogs up, my *!

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  19. chocice

    chocice New Member

    i would have to disagree with the standard way of laying bricks is frog down, if building control ever see it, you would have to re-do it. i know we all do it to "grind" down now and again, but it is NOT the correct way of laying bricks, its actually a bit amaturish.
     
  20. EXPERTGASMAN

    EXPERTGASMAN New Member

    I've never built a wall, but I've chopped out a hell of a lot of holes, and I'd have put money on the frogs being down. I'll take more notice now
     

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