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Jackoftrades said:
If that is your best answer, then your faith is just a crutch.

Catholics are right are they? Muslims arent? Buddhists?

Those living the truest line is probably the reverse order of those 3.

How about that for a debating point?
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Did i state that 'Catholics' were right? NO! I said 'Christians' Keep up will you! :p
 
Jackoftrades said:
So innocent kids born with life threatening issues, but rapists and murderers get to live?

I agree life has to end/continue, but that demonstrates he isnt caring if he is there.

Prefer Darwins idea
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No good asking me that, I don't believe.
 
There many that think the Bible has to be taken absolutely literally. Word for word. As you know, Jesus spoke in parables, why:

Mark 4:10-13
10 And when he was alone, those who were about him with the twelve asked him concerning the parables. 11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables; 12 so that they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand; lest they should turn again, and be forgiven.” 13 And he said to them, “Do you not understand this parable? How then will you understand all the parables?

This i believe is the same with the Bible.
 
A parable is just an analogy , nothing more, nothing less
 
sospan said:
One of my neighbours is deeply religious, during the week several visits and Sundays at least two visits to church. However, she is one of the nasties most uncaring person I know. Follows very few of the Christian ideals.
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Maybe she knows that and goes to church for some sort of forgiveness.
 
Phil the Paver said:
Maybe she knows that and goes to church for some sort of forgiveness.
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Could be. Look at me for example, an adulterer! And i go to church!!!!!!

Mark 2:17
17 And when Jesus heard it, he said to them, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick; I came not to call the righteous, but sinners.”
 
My view is Churches are amazing building that have some wonderful architectures but more than that, if you as a person can go to that building with a troubled mind, after praying or whatever, you leave that building untroubled that can only be a good thing.

This though is purely mind over matter, you have made yourself feel better about yourself, no invisible being or force has intervened.
 
Phil the Paver said:
My view is Churches are amazing building that have some wonderful architectures but more than that, if you as a person can go to that building with a troubled mind, after praying or whatever, you leave that building untroubled that can only be a good thing.

This though is purely mind over matter, you have made yourself feel better about yourself, no invisible being or force has intervened.
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Very correct and true.

One can enter in a terrible state and then be uplifted afterwards if only for a short time. One has to experience it.
 
Phil the Paver said:
My view is Churches are amazing building that have some wonderful architectures but more than that, if you as a person can go to that building with a troubled mind, after praying or whatever, you leave that building untroubled that can only be a good thing.

This though is purely mind over matter, you have made yourself feel better about yourself, no invisible being or force has intervened.
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Saying that, I would also have to chip in, I have visited various churches when I'm on holidays just to see the magnificent workmanship and skill put into them. Churches can be some of the best buildings for both architecture and historic methods.
 
Joe95 said:
Saying that, I would also have to chip in, I have visited various churches when I'm on holidays just to see the magnificent workmanship and skill put into them. Churches can be some of the best buildings for both architecture and historic methods.
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Agree. Awesome places. Some more 'spiritual' than others. Sometimes one gets all goose pimples in some places.
 
koolpc said:
Very correct and true.

One can enter in a terrible state and then be uplifted afterwards if only for a short time. One has to experience it.
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I thought a church was actually the people not the building.

But i do like to look at the architecture
 
Personally I think a persons beliefs are down to them and what they choose. I do not practice the religion I was brought up in, but can see why people do. Giving hope and something to rely on during tough times is just one of them.

I do however think that religious organisations such as the diosis of Westminster are much like a business. They 'ask' for 'donations' which are not really donations, but expected payments from members of a parish. With business like hierarchies too.
 
Phil the Paver said:
Though I don't believe in God, if there was such a thing, he/her/it would have to allow people to die, otherwise we would be over run in no time, people have to die to allow people to live, its just nature.
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So why not just let good, caring, loving people die of old age, and the scumbags who murder people, lead bad lives etc be weaned out....
 
Jackoftrades said:
I thought a church was actually the people not the building.

But i do like to look at the architecture
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That i very true. The church is the body of Christ. The building 'Church' is where we worship, to give praise etc. Much like Jesus did when visiting a temple.
 
Joe95 said:
Personally I think a persons beliefs are down to them and what they choose. I do not practice the religion I was brought up in, but can see why people do. Giving hope and something to rely on during tough times is just one of them.

I do however think that religious organisations such as the diosis of Westminster are much like a business. They 'ask' for 'donations' which are not really donations, but expected payments from members of a parish. With business like hierarchies too.
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Yes, i agree with you.

Thing is, all religions have to be like businesses as they have bills to pay etc.
 
Joe95 said:
Saying that, I would also have to chip in, I have visited various churches when I'm on holidays just to see the magnificent workmanship and skill put into them. Churches can be some of the best buildings for both architecture and historic methods.
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Absolutely, every time I visit a new place, if its got a big church or cathedral I spend ages looking at it in detail.

This is the ceiling of Warwick Church.

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koolpc said:
That i very true. The church is the body of Christ. The building 'Church' is where we worship, to give praise etc. Much like Jesus did when visiting a temple.
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So you should be uplifted by those around you, just like everybody is uplifted by the company of friends.

Doesnt matter what building you are in
 
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