Good job or bad job

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by Chris Wilkinson, May 1, 2018.

  1. Isitreally

    Isitreally Super Member


    On my new system the heating motorized valve wouldn't switch off the heating, brand new out the box it didn't work. ??
     
  2. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    I suppose anything can be faulty new.
    But zone valves seem to be poor quality now. Honeywell had a good reputation, but are giving trouble nowadays.
     
  3. Isitreally

    Isitreally Super Member

    It was a Honeywell.

    Worse than that though, the boiler had a rubber seal ring missing from the flue. !!!
     
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  4. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    I think the valve with grey metal head to the left side of cylinder in first photo, is the one supplied with the unit. It must have the wires connected and NOT manually opened.
     
  5. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    We nearly have to test everything in detail before installing them nowadays.
    The Honeywell zone valves look sturdy well built on outside, but their design inside is causing them to wear. Am hoping they are eventually redesigned, but who knows.
     
  6. Sparkielev

    Sparkielev Screwfix Select

    You say it's a new build ? The cable to the fuse spur looks very rough can't really tell on my iPad but looks like rubber insulated cable
     
  7. Chris Wilkinson

    Chris Wilkinson New Member

    Yeah it’s my own new build. I don’t think the sparks have finished tidying in there up yet they were waiting until this was all in
     
  8. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Saw your plumber on TV last week, well I think it was him, isn't he the guy who makes coat racks and sculptures out of copper tube. :confused:
     
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  9. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Soldered joints are so old fashion today, push fit is in now.

    Sadly, I like soldered joints over push fit.:oops:
     
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  10. exbg

    exbg Screwfix Select

    Obviously writing at same time.

    OP: How did you meet/find the "plumber" ? Did you feed his horse any sugar lumps? :)
     
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  11. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    I wonder if plumber has a G3 ticket to work on unvented cylinder.o_O
     
  12. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    I think the plumber might have a GU ticket - ‘ Generally Useless’
     
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  13. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    Push fit is legal to use, but end feed soldered fittings are better and cheaper. Just lazy plumbing and always second best to use push fit there imo.
     
  14. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

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    I know push fit is legal, but it looks so tacky,only end feed soldered fitting for me I afraid.

    Very lazy plumbing.:)
     
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  15. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    Me too, just DIY but it looks a darn sight better, is cheaper and a lot more durable. Have been known to use Yorkshire fittings on occasion if hard to get at. :oops:
     
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  16. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select

    Even looks like cheap old pushfits used - maybe Polyplumb or some unbranded nonsense

    Couldn’t even use a decent make for price charged, either Hep or JG, gotta look after those profit margins I guess :(

    Also a few more pipe clips would have been nice (yeah again less profit I realise but could always add as ‘extras’) :eek:

    Hope you get this sorted though
     
  17. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    I'm curious, what was agreed re pricing with the fitter and what was he asked to do exactly? I could have done better blindfolded.
     
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  18. Pollowick

    Pollowick Screwfix Select

    Plenty of words used above to describe that.

    I am not a trained plumber - just self taught with advice from professionals. To me that is abysmal, layout, support, fittings, workmanship and more. If you are using copper then solder joints should dominate with occasional compressions where required. If using plastic pipe, then push fit connections throughout and of a decent brand - Hep2O or JG Speedfit. The only time I would use a plastic push fit on copper or a compression on plastic would be where the two systems interface.

    and with one hand tied behind your back too!
     
  19. Chris Wilkinson

    Chris Wilkinson New Member

    It’s one of my friends dads, he done the rest of the pipework in the house but we won’t go into that. To be honest I thought a better job would have been carried out, the £1774 was only for labour. I’ve supplied the rest of the materials about £900 worth
     
  20. Isitreally

    Isitreally Super Member

    To give you an idea.

    This is my install.

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