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Jackoftrades said:
Plain and utter tosh.

Corbyn supporter, what drivel.

The person that should be leading the country now is a Tory! Clarke! Couldnt be much further away than what you just said, could you.

You havent got a clue about equal opportunity either, have you?
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It's not about supporting him as much, it's acting like him in having no repect for any thing British, monarchy, anthem.
 
joinerjohn1 said:
DA, you know it as well as I, Society will never have true "equality" in any sense of the word. Certainly won't ever have "equal equality".
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1) So don't even try to offer equal opportunities to each and every child in this country?
2) With 'Leave', you are making damn certain of inequality increasing further. Tell us about poverty? Tell us about the NHS? Tell us about frozen pay? Tell us about foodbanks? You Farage, Gove, Johnson, Mogg, Trump, Le Pen supporter, you.

JJ, when are you going to 'get' it?

When is it going to click?
 
Isitreally said:
It's not about supporting him as much, it's acting like him in having no repect for any thing British, monarchy, anthem.
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I can tell that this issue has exercised you for a long time. Not. But, hey, any port in a storm...

You care about this as much as you gave a nano-second's thought to Irish borders when you ticked that box.

But then it was never about anything else, was it. It was only ever about one thing - that wee beast inside yer skull.

Well, you released it all right, and isn't it doing well on the outside? :rolleyes:
 
Isitreally said:
It's not about supporting him as much, it's acting like him in having no repect for any thing British, monarchy, anthem.
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As I said, what utter tosh.

I respect people who earn respect. I accept people of all types. I dislike some, I hate a few, very few.

But what doesnt matter to me is where they were born, or who their parents were.

Obviously you think it is right to bow and scrape and accept that people born in a certain place are better than others. And then, those who are born to certain people are even better.

As regards royalty, you should look at some other examples (in Europe) who are prepared, and actually do earn respect, with less automatic expected reverence.

You still dont have a clue though. Your British. Because of that you are so much better than the rest of the world.

See the weakness in that yet ?
 
Isitreally said:
It's not about supporting him as much, it's acting like him in having no repect for any thing British, monarchy, anthem.
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We’re supposed to respect the monarchy because they were the first ones to emerge from the correct vagina?

That’s not a system of government- it’s a very weird game of gynaecological it’s a knockout.

I miss 1065.
 
Devil's Advocate said:
My choice of descriptor was not designed to flatter you (tho' it does) or to get under your skin (although always a bonus) but to say things as they are.

You actually imagined (or made up to suit yourself) that JoT or I would 'diss the Mogg simply because he's wealthy and privileged? Or even just because he's a Brexiteer?

Longs, by now you know us better than that. Just as we know you (not in the biblical sense, of course).

You need to examine the guy you would clearly happily vote for a bit more closely. His plummy manner, born of wealth & privilege, ain't cute or quaint or enchanting - it masks the problem with the guy. He's a bigot (and I use that term where it's correct & appropriate).

The problem with the Mogg is not his background but that he's allowed it to colour his ideology and principles; he hasn't risen 'above' what his privilege has given him.

You do know that our society is well unfair? Yes? You will surely accept that? It is meant to be 'fair' - a land of equal opportunity and equal equality (I reckon that makes sense...). But, in practice, it ain't. Those who have, get more. Those who don't, suffer more. In general. Women do not have equality. Neither do many other groups.

You will surely acknowledge this as a truism, Longs? Cool.

Well, just you wait until the Moggs gets given power.

That is why he is not suitable PM material.

And because he's a rabid Brexiter. And shares ideas with Bannon.

And that's why for you to 'call' our judgement on this as you did makes you either wilfully ignorant or a pernicious slimeball.

To help you chose, I'll make it easy - it's both.
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The conclusion is the same no matter how you try and spin it.
You (and, JoT, seen as you've now admitted you are indeed 'one') don't like the guy mainly because he's in favour of leaving the European Union, and he's also rich and that's just not fair.
 
btiw2 said:
We’re supposed to respect the monarchy because they were the first ones to emerge from the correct vagina?

That’s not a system of government- it’s a very weird game of gynaecological it’s a knockout.

I miss 1065.
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No, your supposed to respect them because they are your monarchy.

Something many a country would love to have.
 
Devil's Advocate said:
I can tell that this issue has exercised you for a long time. Not. But, hey, any port in a storm...

You care about this as much as you gave a nano-second's thought to Irish borders when you ticked that box.

But then it was never about anything else, was it. It was only ever about one thing - that wee beast inside yer skull.

Well, you released it all right, and isn't it doing well on the outside? :rolleyes:
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I think it's about time you stopped blaming those that voted out.

It is not and never was their fault that the vote went that way.

It was all down to the Tories(read twits, DA etc). The weak effort from Cameron at getting a better deal.
The unbelievable hypocrisy in offering a vote just to get elected again.
The complete hypocrisy in thinking he/they knew how the population would vote.
The complete failure to convince the population of the proper benefits or pitfalls.
(A pamphlet that could be read in 5 minutes)
And then Cameron legging it as soon as he realised his failure.
No-one mentioned borders in Ireland. No-one mentioned 'get-out' payments.
(I could spend the rest of the day stating what no-one mentioned).
It was all in this leaflet, to convince us.
And continuing with a government that hasn't got a clue.
We are doomed - not because the vote was negative - but because of the fools in charge of implementing it.

And that includes YOU.

Get on with it. Kick assss-! Or eff off and let someone else do it.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
Isitreally said:
Something many a country would love to have.
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Really? Because if a modern republic wanted a monarchy then I’m sure they could get one. They could put out a classified ad.

Wanted: Inbred foreign halfwits. Duties include making fatuous comments and waving. Must have own hats. Chin optional.

There again, perhaps you just like being ruled by foreigners.

The English used to vote for their king. What we have now is a European system. I’d definitely vote to leave that.
 
Jackoftrades said:
As I said, what utter tosh.

I respect people who earn respect. I accept people of all types. I dislike some, I hate a few, very few.

But what doesnt matter to me is where they were born, or who their parents were.

Obviously you think it is right to bow and scrape and accept that people born in a certain place are better than others. And then, those who are born to certain people are even better.

As regards royalty, you should look at some other examples (in Europe) who are prepared, and actually do earn respect, with less automatic expected reverence.

You still dont have a clue though. Your British. Because of that you are so much better than the rest of the world.

See the weakness in that yet ?
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Yeah, yeah, JoT. We get the whole "I'm friends with people of colour, and gays, and poor people, and even rich people" woolines.
If you were true to yourself and dropped the pretence it boils down to nothing more than:

Two legs baa-d.

Or, maybe 'UK, baa-d'.
 
longboat said:
Yeah, yeah, JoT. We get the whole "I'm friends with people of colour, and gays, and poor people, and even rich people" woolines.
If you were true to yourself and dropped the pretence it boils down to nothing more than:

Two legs baa-d.

Or, maybe 'UK, baa-d'.
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So im not as British as Iir or you, because I wouldnt bow to the queen and I treat people as people?

You really think you are better because you were born British?

I would say I am more British, simply because how I respect all people that deserve it. Not just those that I have been taught to respect.

Following the simple lines like a sheep (the brexit sheep) isnt really British you know.
 
Mr. Handyandy said:
I think it's about time you stopped blaming those that voted out.

It is not and never was their fault that the vote went that way.

It was all down to the Tories(read twits, DA etc). The weak effort from Cameron at getting a better deal.
The unbelievable hypocrisy in offering a vote just to get elected again.
The complete hypocrisy in thinking he/they knew how the population would vote.
The complete failure to convince the population of the proper benefits or pitfalls.
(A pamphlet that could be read in 5 minutes)
And then Cameron legging it as soon as he realised his failure.
No-one mentioned borders in Ireland. No-one mentioned 'get-out' payments.
(I could spend the rest of the day stating what no-one mentioned).
It was all in this leaflet, to convince us.
And continuing with a government that hasn't got a clue.
We are doomed - not because the vote was negative - but because of the fools in charge of implementing it.

And that includes YOU.

Get on with it. Kick assss-! Or eff off and let someone else do it.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
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lol.
 
Mr. Handyandy said:
I think it's about time you stopped blaming those that voted out.

It is not and never was their fault that the vote went that way.

It was all down to the Tories(read twits, DA etc). The weak effort from Cameron at getting a better deal.
The unbelievable hypocrisy in offering a vote just to get elected again.
The complete hypocrisy in thinking he/they knew how the population would vote.
The complete failure to convince the population of the proper benefits or pitfalls.
(A pamphlet that could be read in 5 minutes)
And then Cameron legging it as soon as he realised his failure.
No-one mentioned borders in Ireland. No-one mentioned 'get-out' payments.
(I could spend the rest of the day stating what no-one mentioned).
It was all in this leaflet, to convince us.
And continuing with a government that hasn't got a clue.
We are doomed - not because the vote was negative - but because of the fools in charge of implementing it.

And that includes YOU.

Get on with it. Kick assss-! Or eff off and let someone else do it.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
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Because you couldnt sort information from multiple sources at the same time as thinking forward a little ?
 
longboat said:
The conclusion is the same no matter how you try and spin it.
You (and, JoT, seen as you've now admitted you are indeed 'one') don't like the guy mainly because he's in favour of leaving the European Union, and he's also rich and that's just not fair.
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Nah. I don't like him 'cos he's a far right-wing bigot, who consorts with Bannon.

That's more than enough reason.

If given only that info, I would infer that he voted 'Leave'.

You are such a duffer to be suckered by that guy - my gawd. You have zero critical faculties.

Or worse.
 
Jackoftrades said:
Because you couldnt sort information from multiple sources at the same time as thinking forward a little ?
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So at the time of voting at the referendum, YOU had considered what might happen with borders in or between Ireland?

Get away!
 
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