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Jackoftrades said:
Its good to see that the British are the best people in the world.
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What Harry said, was he was lucky to be born without physical or mental deformity, and lucky to be born in Britain.
Do you not accept that somebody born in this country probably has better life chances than if they were born in, say, Somalia?
 
fillyboy said:
What Harry said, was he was lucky to be born without physical or mental deformity, and lucky to be born in Britain.
Do you not accept that somebody born in this country probably has better life chances than if they were born in, say, Somalia?
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Undoubtedly.

Been trying to get that through to you right wingers for ages.

It is PURE LUCK.

Do you think by being born in Britain it makes you better because of your luck?
 
Devil's Advocate said:
What a poor memory.

The risk to the Good Friday Agreement and to Scottish Indy were amongst two of many reasons I gave on here for Remain, pre-ref.
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Completely unconnected.

Why would you use an unconnected scenario to try to prove a point that you are more tuned in than the rest of us?

You didn't mention 'borders'.

And because, as we have seen recently, Brexit or Bremain doesn't necessarily mean borders.

So don't come that tosh with me.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
Jackoftrades said:
Undoubtedly.

Been trying to get that through to you right wingers for ages.

It is PURE LUCK.

Do you think by being born in Britain it makes you better because of your luck?
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Got nothing to do with luck. Your parents, forefathers etc chose where to live, where to have children etc.

It wasn't luck that I was born here. My mother and father lived here. Their parents lived here etc. All by choice.

The luck comes about because we are British(we won the war). We might have otherwise been born here but under German rule. Even then, not really luck. The British fought to be British under British rule(slightly similar to voting Brexitism)

Think on, you multinational stereotype bargainers.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
Mr. Handyandy said:
Got nothing to do with luck. Your parents, forefathers etc chose where to live, where to have children etc.

It wasn't luck that I was born here. My mother and father lived here. Their parents lived here etc. All by choice.

The luck comes about because we are British(we won the war). We might have otherwise been born here but under German rule. Even then, not really luck. The British fought to be British under British rule(slightly similar to voting Brexitism)

Think on, you multinational stereotype bargainers.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
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Words fail me.

The person suggested by filly chose to be born in Somalia, just as you chose to be born in Brirain?
 
Mr. Handyandy said:
It wasn't luck that I was born here. My mother and father lived here. Their parents lived here etc. All by choice.
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Yes, but someone whose parents lived in Somalia, or Aden aren't as lucky as you are they?, My forefathers heralded from Ireland, luckily for me, they got fed up with coming back from the pub and forgetting where they'd planted the potatoes, so they moved to England. Luck of the Irish I reckon.
 
Jackoftrades said:
Words fail me.

The person suggested by filly chose to be born in Somalia, just as you chose to be born in Brirain?
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I didn't choose it Twit. My parents chose it, as did...oh forget it.

Like talking to a drunken pikey.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
fillyboy said:
Yes, but someone whose parents lived in Somalia, or Aden aren't as lucky as you are they?, My forefathers heralded from Ireland, luckily for me, they got fed up with coming back from the pub and forgetting where they'd planted the potatoes, so they moved to England. Luck of the Irish I reckon.
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I think maybe that the English language is getting confused here. I think that 'fortunate' is a better word to use than 'lucky'.

In which case, I have been fortunate to have been born in a fairly civilised country.(Even so, the country being fairly civilised should not be put down to luck)

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
Jackoftrades said:
You didnt choose it?

Oh it must have been luck then? Understand ?
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No. It wasn't luck.

That's like saying if you turn a coin over, there's a head on the other side. That's not luck. It was there all along.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
Mr. Handyandy said:
I think maybe that the English language is getting confused here. I think that 'fortunate' is a better word to use than 'lucky'.

In which case, I have been fortunate to have been born in a fairly civilised country.(Even so, the country being fairly civilised should not be put down to luck)

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
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Its not th Enlish language getting confused.

It is you.

Yes you are lucky to be born in Britain. But that doesnt make you better than somebody born elsewhere. It is you that makes you better or worse than other people.
 
Jackoftrades said:
Its not th Enlish language getting confused.

It is you.

Yes you are lucky to be born in Britain. But that doesnt make you better than somebody born elsewhere. It is you that makes you better or worse than other people.
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No. I was not lucky. It was planned. It was an inevitability. It had to happen because my parents produced me here.
Inevitable. That is not luck.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
Mr. Handyandy said:
No. I was not lucky. It was planned. It was an inevitability. It had to happen because my parents produced me here.
Inevitable. That is not luck.

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
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Seriously, give up.

Even filly tried to explain it to you too.
 
Jackoftrades said:
Its not th Enlish language getting confused.

It is you.

Yes you are lucky to be born in Britain. But that doesnt make you better than somebody born elsewhere. It is you that makes you better or worse than other people.
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Does the cilice you wear feel good, JoT?
Repent.
Repent.
 
Jackoftrades said:
Seriously, give up.

Even filly tried to explain it to you too.
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I don't need it explaining, you do.

Luck is chance. It wasn't luck that I was born here. There is no luck in it. The circumstances made it inevitable.
If it's inevitable, it CANNOT be luck.

Go back to school(obviously not Grammar)

Mr. HandyAndy - Really
 
joinerjohn1 said:
DA, the day society actually becomes completely equal in every meaning of the sense, will never happen. Equality, suggests some sort of state where every single thing is equal. Naturally we are all different from each other, have differing needs, wants and limitations. Shall we look and see what’s the chance of someone with Downs Syndrome, going to university ? Go on, tell me .. Now tell me why a larger percentage of these people haven’t gone. Is it because they were disadvantaged whilst in education? Disadvantaged when growing up? Disadvantaged for some other reason? . Nah, you just cannot accept that each individual has limitations in life. You seem to live In some sort of Utopia, where everyone can reach the same potential as everyone else. One where everyone just has to have the same expectations as everyone else. True equality would only come about if we were genetically identical to everyone else,, and what a boring world that would be. It’s you that doesn’t “ get it” DA.
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I personally know at least one person with the extra chromosome and a BA.
 
chippie244 said:
I personally know at least one person with the extra chromosome and a BA.
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Really? Someone with Down syndrome with a degree? I kinda want to ask “what in?”, but feel that the reply might cheapen it - which isn’t my intention.

We’re all born with limitations (one of mine is laziness) and it’s a lesson to us wastrels when people overcome incredible challenges when we don’t. The problem is that it’s not a nice lesson. It’s much easier to tear them down than build ourselves. Okay, back to plan A.

So what what was the BA in? I bet it wasn’t a proper subject! No. Hang on. That’s not the reply when people with less opportunity achieve more than me. I know! Yeah, but I bet he doesn’t have common sense!
 
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