Just a quick thank you really. Been lurking on here reading up on all your posts and have started to fit out kitchen. Using the info that has been posted we have managed to make a much better start, and i was able to make sure we got it right. Used a water level to set a datum line on the wall and found that one end of the room is 2cm lower, which would have caused problems if i hadnt of insisted on doing it first. I'll no doubt have more newbie questions that you will all laugh, but hope i will not be a nuisence. Cheers in advance