These were the words uttered by a joiner when we all started for a new firm doing this working away lark that we do. Apparently this time every one would get masses of work and get rich. I was the only one who agreed with the joiner. Although there is still plenty of work going on its so disorganised I'm amazed he makes any money at all. He told us to employ someone which we have done and was paying us on the second Friday after you put your invoice in, so if you put it in on Friday 1st you would get it Friday 15th. He is now trying to change the terms and say you will only get paid 30 days after invoice date/recieved. Getting paid 2 weeks after is bad enough, although we don't have to buy materials there are 2 vans to run, fuel and hotel costs, the hotel costs alone could easily be £1.5-2K over the month and it works out around £8K he owes us at any one time after 2 weeks so if we work for him constantly he will always owe us that. If we go to 30 days he will owe us £16K+ for ever and a day, that effectively becomes his money to do what he wanst with. Would anyone go for this or tell him where to stick it, after all where else will he find someone who will work all over the country doing full re-wires as well as installing and fixing things like door entries, data and fire alarms etc, do EICRs on massive dilapidated doss houses and test and certify emergency lighting etc. Front the hotel costs and wait 30 days for any dosh. Would anyone here do it? Bear in mind I'm someone who is perfectly content to earn £50 in a morning and spend the rest of the day pottering and relaxing in the garden.