Hello Sorry in advance if my terminology isn't great! I got a new light and it doesnt fit past the connection plate behind the ceiling rose (the plastic disc in the picture all the wires are connected to). The new light has its own decorative ceiling rose but it is just too small to fit around the existing one. I therefore need to disconnect all the wires, remove the connection plate and fit something else. Can these wires just go into 3 little connection blocks? One for live, earth and neutral? I'm just a little unsure as there are multiple live wires etc. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks
You’ll have , live, neutral, switched live and earth to contend with. At least 4 conn blocks needed. Might be better with a junction box above ceiling level with only the switched live, neutral and earth coming through the ceiling. Junction box still needs to be accessible though ( possibly from above )
Great, thats what a thought. A junction box would be too difficult in this case. So it would be like this? block 1 - switched live & a live. block 2 - 2 lives block 3 - 2 neutrals block 4 - earths Are these wee connection blocks safe and good to use? They seem so flimsy Cheers
In your proposed configuration, block 1 would contain the switched live coming back from the switch and the live that goes to one side of the light bulb. The other side of the light bulb just goes to the combined neutral.
It won't be, there is room in the new light fitting. Yes thanks - im presuming its the one in the same block as the current live coming from the light
I'm having another slight issue with the new light fitting! The phillips instructions seem to suggest just pushing the wires into the holes? As you can see from the pictures, there's no way of securing them, no screws/clamps. Also, how do you know which way round the picture is meant to be? Or does it not matter as long as one is in the bottom hole and one on the top. Surely u don't just push the wires in :S:S
Yes - that's exactly what you do ... just strip the insulation off to expose the length of bare conductor specified in their instructions and push them in. Once in, give them each a pull, and they should be held so securely that you won't be able to pull them out ... not without a whole new technique ;-)
Great, thanks again for the advice. It's a light for the kids room so better safe than sorry! It just looked a bit dodgy to me! Only other thing is that it doesn't actually specify how much wire needs stripped!
Anything between 5 and 10mm should be fine. If it turns out that 10mm is too long, i.e. copper is exposed even after being pushed fully home, then get back to the forum and someone will tell you how to release the latch.
Looks pretty naff, I'd love to know how there is space behind the fitting for the terminal block. Those wires coming out of the ceiling will be pretty short and the base looks pretty flush with the ceiling to me.