How to wire outside wiring like this.

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by bond007, Dec 24, 2021.

  1. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    Guys
    I'm wanting to wire these black argos lights similar to one in attached pics against the length of my wall.
    Question is, will I need a junction box termination start of each light then carry on the loop to next light.
    Or can I wire straight into back of new argos light and come out other side and wire next light same way. Same as attached in pic with white lights.
    Cable will be connected to a standard wall plug or fuse spur. Screenshot_20211224-164956_Gallery.jpg 20211224_164841.jpg Screenshot_20211224-164928_Firefox.jpg
     
  2. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    Anyone....
     
  3. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    I think the lights you posted are to be recessed into a brick wall.
    They don't have a side entry so you can't do as in the example picture.
     
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  4. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    They are surface mounted according to the description on the website.
     
  5. WillyEckerslike

    WillyEckerslike Screwfix Select

    The lights may be surface mounted but I suspect you'll find that the cable entry points are at the rear. You either drill through or install the cables during construction if the wall has two fair faces.
     
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  6. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    The wall has no electrics so far so I wanted to use 20mm conduict piping horizontal across the wall. Have a daisy chain of lights connected through them.
    Just wanted to know how to connect it back of led light to I could carry on with a daisy link for next light. Similar to how it is in the pic.
    I can drill hole on side of light of require and put a grommet In.
     
  7. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Screwfix Select

    You could wire them as in the photo with the lamp nounted on the front of the box and back entry, you could also use a short upright piece of conduit into a stop end box with the fitting mounted on the front.

    Whole host of options.
     
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  8. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    Ideally want it from the back or side entry.
    So back of the light terminal box. 2 lots of wires will go in?
    One entry wire and one exit wire going to the next light?
     
  9. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Screwfix Select

    Or join them in the box.
     
  10. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    I've opened the light fixing and it has 2 lots of fitting supply so that way I can form a daisy chain.
    Which wire best to use for outside?
    Will I need the 20mm conduict pipe to feed the incoming wire through?
     

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  11. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    Looks like there more back entry than surface conduit side entry.
    You can still do it with conduit and flex but it ain't gonna look good.
     
  12. Teki

    Teki Screwfix Select

    If you can, return those lights and buy surface mount. The ones you have are designed to be wired from behind.
     
  13. Truckcab79

    Truckcab79 Screwfix Select

    Are you sure? Already cut-out on either side for cable to run into, then into white grommet, back out other grommet and back under cut-out. Not designed to have a gland or conduit attached directly to it so looks like they intend you to use appropriate rubber covered ‘pond cable’.

    Could just be the angle of the picture so don’t take my word for it. Did it come with any instructions?
     
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  14. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

  15. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    These are surface mounted and have entry exit points on each side.
     

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  16. Teki

    Teki Screwfix Select

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  17. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    Do I need to cover the flex with any conduict?
    The ones sold on screwfix are not suitable for outdoors but I've seen many use them.

    That's the cable I've bought anyway, really soft and flexible.
     
  18. sparky steve

    sparky steve Screwfix Select

    Conduit not needed:)
     
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  19. techie

    techie Active Member

    Surface mount they may well be, but they wont look like the picture that you've posted as the desired finished set-up.
    As others have commented, cable is designed to enter at the back and the grommets fitted are angled that way. Don’t think you’ll be able to make them weather tight.
     
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  20. bond007

    bond007 Well-Known Member

    Was only thinking of cosmetic purposes. Any other ways to make the flex look more neater
     

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