Installing lintel in thick stone wall

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  1. Braap

    Braap New Member

    I have a thick stone wall, around 50cm thick.
    I want to have a lintel installed to put in a door, its a supporting wall.

    How long would you expect this to take for a builder to do?
    Is it a quick job or is there more to it than I am assuming?

    I've had wildly different quotes for several builders so I need to understand why the vast difference in both cost and time.
     
  2. stuart44

    stuart44 Screwfix Select

    I've done this type of job on 20inch stone walls a few times, and there's a lot more work involved than doing the same in a cavity wall.
    Is the exterior face stone or rendered?
     
  3. Braap

    Braap New Member

    Its an internal stone wall, one side is plaster on a wooden cls frame the other side is more solid so i assume plaster directly on the stone, All I need is the lintel installed and the wall beneath knocked out, I would handle the rest.
     
  4. stuart44

    stuart44 Screwfix Select

    If I was doing the job, I'd probably use 2 needles and 4 acrows if it's a random rubble wall. Have to knock out a bit wider each side, than rebuild the jambs with brickwork. Then put the lintels on and pin up to the wall. Come back another day and remove the needles and fill in the holes. Coup!e of days work for me and a labourer to start, and half a day to come back.
     
  5. stevie22

    stevie22 Screwfix Select

    At the other end of the scale you probably have the chancer who thinks it's a quick disc cut, no acrows and bish bosh.

    Stuart's is the right way but obviously costs a lot more. I'd even prefer to see a couple of days between bricking up the reveals and packing the lintel but that is gilding the lilly a bit.
     
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  6. stuart44

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    Leaving a few days to allow for a bit of settlement and shrinkage is technically the correct method, and would be used if an engineer was overseeing the job.
     
  7. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    I'm curious about the stone wall being internal, only seen this on old farm buildings, I can maybe give a couple of examples but the internals were brick and the sandstone ones were exterior, my external ones took a day to dig out ready for the lintel(6 feet wide) a second day to put the lintel in and cut the doorway, a third day to point and clean up, the clean up was a bit like cleaning up after a cruise missile.
    The interior ones took a day each to put the lintel in and knock the door out, then a second half day to cement and tidy but it was -5 and the guys barely took a break from start to finish, and the brick made it a way simpler job than the sandstone.
     
  8. Braap

    Braap New Member

    I believe the wall was once the external wall and is now internal due to an extension (which is also quite old and sandstone).
    It is a farmhouse, over 100 years old.
     
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