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Perhaps the government in Westminster should give her , her wish and find somewhere "South of the border" to move it to. I do wonder what the uproar would be in Holyrood if they did just that?

Good Lord. jj, do you not know that Holyrood voted decisively to get rid of Trident? They would be delighted for it to be gone!
 
You mean to tell me that DA supports himself :eek::eek: (and there I was thinking it was us taxpayers who supported him) :D:D:D:D
Interesting, jj.
His reliance on others for everything he has certainly explains the underlying contemptuous attitude he shows to all that work for a living.
Maybe it's about time he got a job now that the "two teenage boys" can look after themselves.
I keep telling him he'd make a superb Guardian columnist.
 
Good Lord. jj, do you not know that Holyrood voted decisively to get rid of Trident? They would be delighted for it to be gone!
I doubt the locals around Faslane will share that delight, Lanc (there again when did politicians ever do anything for the people who actually voted them in ?) I also wonder just how much "compensation" the Scottish Government would want for the loss of livelihood in the area? (and who they'd try and claim it from)
 
I see you, nor anybody else, made any comment as to why it would be kept secret?

Any ideas why?
It appears that nobody (including yourself) was able to read the link you provided without coughing up a few sheckles first.

Why do you think this 'headline' has any relevance to what is actually being discussed in the negotiations?
What's your point?
 
I suppose one reason might be that they can't be sure exactly how long Mandelson and Kinnock will live, and pension liabilities will carry on until they are
no longer claiming.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...gainst-euro-brexit-divorce-bill-breakthrough/



Didn't read beyond this.

The pound bounced back on currency markets on Tuesday after the Telegraph revealed that British and EU negotiators have broken the deadlock on the Brexit divorce bill.


Talk about bigging yourself up. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
http://www.businessforscotland.com/...foundation-for-a-wealthy-independent-country/

Books are balanced (as stated cherry on top)

My reason are that we have no say in our own country it is a dictatorship more than a union key examples are general elections its what party England want in government the rest of the UK doesn't matter another key issue is Brexit where both Scotland and Northern Ireland voted overwhelmingly to stay but yet a narrow win for leave in England and Wales tipped the balance.

Shows a key issue with this so called Union does it not?

I also believe we can govern ourselves better than Westminster.

We could also get rid of trident and the wasted funds spent on that also meant to be another abundance of oil on the west coast as well.

Think there are quite a few good reasons in there although you will disagree which you are entitled to do.

Here's a question though why stay?

Thank you, Broon, for completely clarifying where you are coming from, what your 'drive' is.

You are a Nationalist. Straight-up, right-on. That's your drive, and the job is then to find stuff to justify it.

Businessforscotland.com? That's a pro-indy site. So well done for finding something not in the least impartial.

Books are balanced? Why - because you say so? And the oil is a cherry on the top? Such a remark is glib by even Salmond's standards.

No say in your own country? Well, you actually have more 'say' than any other part for the UK (except, possibly N.I. since they have May over a barrel...) You also come at this from the presumption that 'Scotland' should be separate even while it's within the UK. What next, every Remain-voting area or county should be granted special rights on Brexit? No? Only 'Scotland'? And, since you are suddenly so 'democratic', what about the pockets of solid 'Remain' voters in your country?

Scotland is part of the UK, has the same rights and votes the same way - except it also has it's own parliament - regardless of its lack of success - so it already 'democratically' better off than the rest of the UK. And yet you expect 'more', just because it's in your blood.

If the oil if off 'your' shores, you want it - you expect it. It it were off the coast of another part of the UK you'd be very very quiet on it.

Westminster is a 'Dictatorship'? That's not even funny, but it does expose the depth of your rationality.

You also believe'' you can govern yourself better than Westminster? Wow. Just like that. Peasy, eh? Again, the Scot Parl ain't doing all that good so far; most of what I can see them doing is populist vote-winning policies that they cannot afford. You want more of that? Jeepers.

You could get rid of Trident? Well, yes, possibly. Provided whoever was in power wanted that. Do you actually think it would happen, tho'? I mean, Corbyn says that's also what he'll do - so there's your answer if Trident means that much to you. I suspect Trident means actually very little to you, but it sure sounds good...

God questions? No, sorry, Broon - there's nothing new there at all. All wishful thinking.

And then comes the clincher - "Why NOT?!"

That's all the union means to you.

Yup, 100% bona-fide Nationalist. That's you 'drive' right there. Everything just has to fit in with your 'want'.
 

Before linking to such articles, do you stop and wonder what's behind them?

The £ fell as a direct result of the fear of a hard Brexit. It has bounced back since the UK promised loads of money and the market sees this as an indication that the UK is effectively buying continued access to the single market - ie a great big 'softie'.

That's as obvious as an obvious thing. I hope you understand this? Good.

An apology - I did read further despite your clear instruction not to, and found this; "As Brexit uncertainty mounted, analysts warned in late summer that the pound was drifting towards parity with the euro and sterling fell as low as €1.07 against the currency as the robust recovery in the eurozone accelerated."

Except for one country.
 
DA seems to think I voted to leave the EU because of all the foreigners here in the UK. He's wrong though. Yes I too complain at times, but not usually about the EU migrants here. I'm most found complaining about the non EU migrants who you read about in the papers. Those who have nothing to offer this country, yet seem to get everything it has to offer. The ones we see on the tv every day arriving into the EU in droves claiming they have lost everything, yet still have the latest iPhone/ Samsung/ Huwai, smartphone clamped to their ear. The ones complaining that they don't want the food offered to them, but want money (to buy the same bloody food themselves) The ones complaining that they don't get free wifi, or it's not fast enough. The one's Merkel invites to Germany, then when they come, Merkel tells us it's the whole of the EU's problem (hint here Angela,,, you invited them to Germany, therefore it's your problem) I probably feel the same about the EU as a lot of Scots people feel about the English.

To be fair to you, JJ, you haven't been as vociferous in your 'dislike' as some others. Having said that, neither have you distanced yourself from some truly shocking comments by your fellow u-s.

And, just as the hint of attrition was permeating my soul, you had to go and say stuff like that above...

I'm probably as unkeen on 'scroungers' as you are, JJ. I mean, all scroungers be they indigenous or 'grant. EU or non-EU.

So that you had to focus on a tiny unrepresentative sample of one type to make your 'point' is a real shame.

You know what that's called, don't you JJ? You know, when someone exploits a small unrepresentative sample to try and bolster the biased opinion that's already inside them?

Yes, exactly - that's what it's called.

It's not good, JJ.

In fact, it's SO bad that Trump does it a lot. Today's was a BEAUT!

Here's a chance to redeem yourself, tho'; if you could link to the information that confirms your assertions - eg those 'grants who have 'nothing to offer', arrive in 'droves', are festooned with iPhones and the like, demand money not food, moan about lack of WiFi etc etc etc. - and show that this is representative of these people, then you may have a point.

If you fail, then you are a 'you know what'. Just like Trump. Who you pretend to dislike.
 
Before linking to such articles, do you stop and wonder what's behind them?

The £ fell as a direct result of the fear of a hard Brexit. It has bounced back since the UK promised loads of money and the market sees this as an indication that the UK is effectively buying continued access to the single market - ie a great big 'softie'.

That's as obvious as an obvious thing. I hope you understand this? Good.

An apology - I did read further despite your clear instruction not to, and found this; "As Brexit uncertainty mounted, analysts warned in late summer that the pound was drifting towards parity with the euro and sterling fell as low as €1.07 against the currency as the robust recovery in the eurozone accelerated."

Except for one country.


If as being banded about it is 50 billion, then that's a drop in the ocean of what is out there for the taking, just need the right people to go and get it, in the right hands we could be as much as 100 billion a year better off, but we need strong people in change and that ain't the case at the moment.
 
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