Ireland

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Devil's Advocate, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    As part of our 'special relationship' with Ireland we've had pretty much a soft border for the last hundred years or so, maybe it was a form of
    reparation for our earlier 'shenanigans', prior to the Common Market, our border with Europe was, in your parlance, a 'hard' border.
     
  2. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member


    Yes, but do you want hard borders with the EU after brexit ?
     
  3. Isitreally

    Isitreally Active Member

    Saw DA in the barber's earlier.

    cbb43773b18ce3d6f4fe3000e21cc5e8.jpg


    :eek::eek::eek::eek:
     
  4. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    No, a border will be more than sufficient thank you, with a reciprocal arrangement for trade movements, but with the UK government having a say on who can and cannot enter the country.
     
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  5. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

    Can we at least first come to an understanding on what your idea of bordering on a hard one is?

    Explain what your meaning of a 'hard border' is?
    The link you posted earlier meant didly squat.
     
  6. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member


    :p if you say so.

    It was actually a very clear article looking at many angles.
     
  7. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    What about your angle? what's a 'hard' border?
     
  8. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member

    Free movement of people and goods, but the Government can say no, so its not free movement?

    And the EU can also say no too, so again its free movement but its not.

    You wanted hard borders to reclaim them, a major point of your votes to leave.


    Anybody else smell the burning rubber of swerving?

    Answer clearly?

    Do you want border checks with the EU or dont you ?
     
  9. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    You can 'phone a friend' or 'ask the audience' if that helps.
     
  10. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    WHOOOOOAAAAA!, I didn't mention free movement of people (other than with Ireland where it's existed for 100 years). No, I want passport controls, a points based system allowing workers in as required.
     
  11. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member


    Well done.

    So the Ireland issue is pretty difficult isnt it?
     
  12. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

    Where's the option of sending, DA a 'pm'?

    No, sorry, that's a given anyway.
     
  13. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    No, it's not difficult at all, it's political.
     
  14. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

  15. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member


    Either you want borders with the EU (and the rest of the world), or you dont.

    You seem confused.

    You want these borders, but not with the EU (Ireland).
     
  16. longboat

    longboat Well-Known Member

    And the, EU has decided to play gooseberry.
     
  17. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member


    Its actually very difficult, ask the Tories and their tail.
     
  18. Jackoftrades

    Jackoftrades Well-Known Member


    They didnt ask us to leave did they.

    Just to sort out the border issue we have created.

    But of course its the EU's fault.
     
  19. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select


    I'd bet if I went 50/50, I'd be left with 'Yes' or 'No' !!!!


    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  20. fillyboy

    fillyboy Well-Known Member

    I'm not confused at all Jack, Of course I want borders, read my last few posts, and I want to maintain a special relationship with Ireland which we've always
    had.
    And it really isn't as difficult as you think to resolve, do you have a hotline to May, Davies and Junckers, brinkmanship, game playing, politics.
     

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