Is it just me getting old or........

DIYDave40

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Is it just me being older or are things not made to last as good as they were years ago?

It's not just the stuff I buy and install is the cheapest stuff? Nothing lasts a decent amount of time before needing to be fixed or replaced these days.
 
A while ago manufacturers deliberately started building short life spans in to accessories. More money to be made.

My mum has a chest freezer bought in 1972, still running now.
 
One of my fridges finally gave up last weekend - 30 years. Freezer still at -20C though. Good old dual compressor model rather that the singles made now.
 
Moat appliances seem to be throw away , and replace. Not sure if its about not economical to repair or that there's no spares back up... nearly everything you buy now only has a years guarantee!!
 
I'd like to know if Hyundai can offer a 5 years unlimited warranty on cars- even topping it up to five years on recent used cars, how come the other companies don't.
May be cynical or is it because the others have a good idea that long warranties would cost them a lot of money maybe?
 
I'm thinking the guarantee period reflects the build quality...or should do.
Interestingly I recently purchased a karcher pressure cleaner...came with a 6 year guarantee!!
 
Nothing lasts a decent amount of time before needing to be fixed or replaced these days.
It's cheap stuff because that's what the consumer wants. Buy today, throw away tomorrow, or soon, when you think you've had enough of it, or there's something "better".

"Consumerism is a social and economic order in which the aspirations of many individuals include the acquisition of goods and services beyond those necessary for survival or traditional displays of status" (- Wikipedia)
 
I'm thinking the guarantee period reflects the build quality...or should do.
Interestingly I recently purchased a karcher pressure cleaner...came with a 6 year guarantee!!

Back in the very early 80s, I designed a unique piece of comms equipment for part of the MoD and it included my first electrical installation. It had to be warranted for 10 years and in about 5-6 years whilst I was still there, just one small failure, rectified in about 30 minutes. Around 2012, by chance, I found out that it was still operational and not failed in all that time - it was in use daily. It really peevs me when electronics fails after a year and you get petty excuses - proper design and build will give longevity.
 
as mentioned above, so much cheap stuff as that's what the consumer wants. The thing is, there is little or no choice on quality . If there was a choice to buy, for example a washing machine for £200 with a years guarantee or spend an additional £50 to get a 3 year guarantee I know which one I would buy.
I suppose another option is to take out extended warranties which are often offered if you pay the extra.
I'm going to digress here but in the same vain, when you send a parcel be it royal mail or another carrier, you are offered the option to buy protection Insurance to cover loss or damage! You would think that these companies would have the procedures in place that this wouldn't happen. I'm my opinion you end up paying for their shortfall and incompetence. I've lost several items even when tracked! They must be somewhere in the system...unless stolen. Or maybe the parcel fell down the back of the scanning machine or accidentally got kicked under the coffee dispenser ;)
 
I'd like to know if Hyundai can offer a 5 years unlimited warranty on cars- even topping it up to five years on recent used cars, how come the other companies don't.
May be cynical or is it because the others have a good idea that long warranties would cost them a lot of money maybe?

I had a Hyundai I30 bought 2years old (before they changed the shape to a weird look). Had it 3years and was the best running car I've had, no problems with it at all, just didn't like them when they updated the shape, and it was a bit too small.
 
Moat appliances seem to be throw away , and replace. Not sure if its about not economical to repair or that there's no spares back up... nearly everything you buy now only has a years guarantee!!
Yes the quotes to repair and replacement parts cost more than buying new a lot of the time.
 
A while ago manufacturers deliberately started building short life spans in to accessories. More money to be made.

My mum has a chest freezer bought in 1972, still running now.

That's right, my in-laws had stuff like a hoover, the old fashion type cooker with the grill over it, the stack type radio/CD/record player all in 1 thing. They had them and other stuff about since the early 80s, always said they worked fine so why replace.

Only since my father-in-law passed away she got all new in. Our kids loved it when she wanted rid of the stack with the record player on top. Still in great working order because the last few years all they seem to be buying is music on vinyl but they never had a record player!
 
Moat appliances seem to be throw away , and replace. Not sure if its about not economical to repair or that there's no spares back up... nearly everything you buy now only has a years guarantee!!

We had a letter from Triton last year asking if we wanted to buy another 1 year warranty on the shower as the 1st year was due to end.
They offered the 2nd years warranty for £55.00....
...I had only paid 40 quid for it in the sale!
 
“Built-In Obsolescence is a term used to describe a manufacturing strategy that involves designing products with a limited lifespan. The goal of this strategy is to create products that will eventually fail, forcing the consumer to buy a new one.”

quite a lot out there about the practice
 
It also has a lot to do with the labour cost of repair, the appliances are cheap, when did you last have your broken TV repaired?
 
Vance Packard's The Waste Makers addressed this in the 60's. You have to keep feeding the beast or it all grinds to a halt. Still, there is still hope with these blokes around.......
 
as mentioned above, so much cheap stuff as that's what the consumer wants. The thing is, there is little or no choice on quality . If there was a choice to buy, for example a washing machine for £200 with a years guarantee or spend an additional £50 to get a 3 year guarantee I know which one I would buy.
I suppose another option is to take out extended warranties which are often offered if you pay the extra.
I'm going to digress here but in the same vain, when you send a parcel be it royal mail or another carrier, you are offered the option to buy protection Insurance to cover loss or damage! You would think that these companies would have the procedures in place that this wouldn't happen. I'm my opinion you end up paying for their shortfall and incompetence. I've lost several items even when tracked! They must be somewhere in the system...unless stolen. Or maybe the parcel fell down the back of the scanning machine or accidentally got kicked under the coffee dispenser ;)
With washing machine theory:
Spend £250 on a Beko or similar which will do the job ok for 3 years then die.
Spend £1100 on a Miele or AEG and it will last 25 years, but require 2 repairs each costing £250....
 
With washing machine theory:
Spend £250 on a Beko or similar which will do the job ok for 3 years then die.
Spend £1100 on a Miele or AEG and it will last 25 years, but require 2 repairs each costing £250....

Or £1000 on a Miele tuimble dryer, that is still going after 30 years and required one small, self fitted, part for £10 (daughter overoaded it) ... compared to a Shed Special at £250 being replaced every 2-3 years.
 
I had to replace my beko washing machine when the drum bearings went, was told they can't be replaced. Shame you can't access them with a grease gun Instead of waiting for them to grind to a halt...... or even replace them
Originally went beko thinking basic, less to go wrong...maybe.
 
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