Is my Gas installation at home domestic or commercial?

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  1. Nitesh Bharadia

    Nitesh Bharadia New Member

    I had a problem with my Gas boiler and called an engineer out from a local Crondall, Surrey UK company.
    The engineer felt my installation was commercial even though past engineers over 13 years have never said anything like this.
    My installation is different as I have 2 x worcester bosch 30cdi (30kw each) and my understanding is that it needs to be over 70kw to be commercial.
    He agreed (after talking to some people on the phone), then he noted I had 35mm copper pipe that ran from the gas meter outside my house to the boilers in my house. The distance was in his opinion between 10 and 12 meters long. I would agreed that is at most 10m but he said 12m.
    I asked him to explain how he gets it to be "commercial" and he was unable to and said his manager said it was commercial and left!

    So I did some research and I worked out the following:
    1. My boilers are 2 x worcester bosch greenstar 30cdi each is 30kw so total is 60kw and therefore less than 70kw.
    2. My pipework is copper 35mm to the boilers and then reduces. So lets say it is 12meters from the meter to the boiler.
    3. The gas meter has the follwoing on it: a UGI meters Ltd, A Hanson PLC Company, 1993, 212 f3/hr pmax 50mbar, -071ft3/and R5 (I have attached a pic)

    So my calcs are as follows (domestic is something where the gas in the pipework and meter is 0.035m3 total.
    35mm copper holds 0.00084 per meter
    The meter holds as follows:
    E6 = 0.0024 = results in 39m length
    G4/U6 = 0.008 = results in 32m length
    G10/U16 = 0.025 = results in 12m length.
    I am unable to figure out which type my meter is, but I guess it is one of the first 2.
    I know I have ignored the x0.1 for fittings. But even then I am definately domestic.
    Are my calcs correct?
    any comments please?
     

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  2. TheMorg

    TheMorg Active Member

    It's a U6 meter, domestic ticket is fine.
     
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  3. Nitesh Bharadia

    Nitesh Bharadia New Member

    Thanks
     
  4. pinkvanman

    pinkvanman New Member

    Domestic..
     
  5. Nitesh Bharadia

    Nitesh Bharadia New Member

    Thanks for confirming.
    Is there a registered Gasafe engineer who will be able to come to my house (GU15 2EJ) and write a report on this to confirm the installation, I have a budget of £100 to £150 for this.
    Also, I need my gas valve on my Worscester Bosch Greenstar 30CDi replaecd too and anything else wrong with my boilers?
    Please message me if you are able to come out in this times to do these 2 jobs for me
    Thanks
     
  6. DannyDoLittle

    DannyDoLittle Active Member

    You should have an installation certificate already from the company that installed it.. If you don't have it then you need to get on to your supplier as anything from the main line upto & including the meter belongs to them as far as i'm aware.
     
  7. The Teach

    The Teach Screwfix Select

    Really need an accurate measure up of all the pipe including any branch pipe work and then add on the fitting allowance. Draw a clear diagram of the installation with measurements & calculations.

    Print out a diagram,have it available when a visiting gas person queries the installation volume.

    Sorry dont know any gas tech's down your part of the country.

    TT
     
  8. Nitesh Bharadia

    Nitesh Bharadia New Member

    Thanks, I will draw it out properly and have it ready.
     

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