Is this kitchen a good or bad price ?

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by mikeouk, Oct 16, 2021.

  1. mikeouk

    mikeouk New Member

    I’m about to order a kitchen for a new extension we’ve built on our house. We’re on a bit of a tight schedule and because I have a howdens account, I got them to measure up. I’m not a fan of their cloak and dagger pricing, and if I had more time I’d get a few quotes, but we had a howdens kitchen in our last house and were happy with the quality of it. I’m completely green when it comes to the cost of kitchens so don’t know if what’s been quoted is good or bad. It includes an American fridge, quartz work tops , dishwasher, wine cooler, double oven, induction hob with integrated extractor, all under cupboard lighting , island. It’s an L shape approx 4m x 4m.
    Total including vat and fitment of worktop £13500
     

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  2. woodbutcherbower

    woodbutcherbower Well-Known Member

    Which depot? If you have a bona fide trade account with a trade supplier, then you must know if the price is good or bad, yes?
     
  3. mikeouk

    mikeouk New Member

    no, I’ve never bought a kitchen from them before, I opened the account when I started renovating the house (I have a ltd company), I’ve bought doors/skirting etc , but I can’t find prices for the kitchens when I log into my account, only the appliances
     
  4. Starslikedust

    Starslikedust Active Member

    Have a look at DIY Kitchens. Their prices are online which will give you a comparison.
     
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  5. exbg

    exbg Active Member

    you mean they fit ONLY the worktop/
     
  6. mikeouk

    mikeouk New Member

    Yes, because it’s quartz , not sure why. Like I said, I’m clueless regarding kitchens, I’m assuming it’s a specialist fit?
     
  7. exbg

    exbg Active Member

    So it is supply only, apart from the worktop?

    Really, I cannot answer your question with any authority, just trying to help by clarifying
     
  8. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Thing with all kitchens is the add ons. Plinths, pelmets, end panels, soft close hinges blah blah blah, and then of course the appliances. Amazing what all these bits add to the cost.
     
  9. Roys

    Roys Active Member

    No expert, but I don’t think that’s too bad considering you getting appliances and quartz tops inc fitting.
    I was about 2k cheaper but I didn’t have the island or big fridge freezer and I got mine 2 years ago.
     
  10. mikeouk

    mikeouk New Member

    Yes, supply only for kitchen, once it’s fitted, they come and fit worktops
     
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  11. exbg

    exbg Active Member

    Yep: Sale now on - 80% OFF !!
    But we will screw you good and hard for the incedentals.



    a "kickboard" is a length of 150mm Contiboard with a stupid mark up
     
  12. woodbutcherbower

    woodbutcherbower Well-Known Member

    It’s not a kick board, it’s a plinth. And it’s not 150mm, it’s 165mm - and 2700mm long. And most of them aren’t chipboard, they’re foil-wrapped 18mm MDF. And they’re around £30 a pop. Base end panels come in at around £24 and wall end panels at £22. Cornice/lighting pelmet mouldings are £16 a 2400mm length. It must be B&Q or Wickes you’re thinking of.

    Not trying to defend them in any way - but I’d respectfully suggest that you don’t post misleading comments on a topic you clearly know absolutely nothing about. Leave that to joiners and kitchen fitters - guys who actually do this for a living.
     
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  13. woodbutcherbower

    woodbutcherbower Well-Known Member

    One tip I would share with the OP is to make sure that they’re providing an island top consisting of one solid piece. I use an independent local granite and quartz specialist who cut their material from slabs using a £250,000 wet diamond CNC machine at anything up to 50mm thick. The last time one of my customers got involved with Howdens quartz on a kitchen I’d fitted, the island was put together using two lengths of standard 620mm wide top material butt-jointed down the middle and seamed with silicone. It looked rubbish. I attached the pics full-size so you can zoom in.

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  14. woodbutcherbower

    woodbutcherbower Well-Known Member

    To compare - here’s another one I finished a month ago, the tops were done by my preferred supplier;
     

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  15. jonathanc

    jonathanc Screwfix Select

    At the end of the day if it’s a howdens kitchen you want then the price is what they ask. If you want to market test it. Get a figure from a couple of other places. At the moment prices are moving in all sorts of areas so hard to give a view
     
  16. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Screwfix Select

    £13500 for units, appliances and fitting Quartz worktops sounds a fair price to me.
    As @woodbutcherbower has pointed out though, the method Howdens use when fitting an Island top is complete rubbish and certainly is not what most customers would expect to see. For the extra it might cost i would get the worktop templated and fitted by an independent solid surfacing company.

    @woodbutcherbower why didn't your preferred supplier run the worktop into the window reveal behind the sink ?
     
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  17. woodbutcherbower

    woodbutcherbower Well-Known Member

    Hi mate - because the customer wanted windowsills made out of stone to match her floor. The tiler backfilled the void with bonding plaster and added the slate sills on top of that after I’d gone. I’ve done exactly what you describe in oak on the one I’ll finish tomorrow though. Looks way better in my eyes. But hey - the customer is always right. All the best.
     

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  18. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Screwfix Select

    Did much the same myself a few years ago with an Iroko worktop.

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  19. woodbutcherbower

    woodbutcherbower Well-Known Member

    Lovely job. Always amazing what a good dollop of oil will do.
     
  20. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Screwfix Select

    There was only 2 coats on it when we finished lol.................probably much darker now :D
     

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