Jihadists

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Harry Stottle, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. Tommy r

    Tommy r New Member

    Hear hear that man. Do gooders , whilst having some nice ideas, are very much out of touch with some of the human race.
     
  2. Isitreally

    Isitreally Super Member


    So are you saying!!!

    Holland.

    Belgium.

    Luxembourg.

    All of which have a euthanasia and assisted suicide laws are wrong.???

    Remember.

    They are all in your.

    Beloved EU.
     
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  3. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    Most police carry firearms I believe in the EU.
    Ready to defend themselves and other innocents.
    In reality, - executioners if needed
     
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  4. longboat

    longboat Screwfix Select

    Incarceration is, in effect state sanctioned kidnapping.
    The beurocratic wiffwaff that is the, EU will surely cotton on to that technicality eventually.
    240 days and counting.
    :)
     
  5. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Shouldn't this post be called "u/s porn" because it's given you all a semi?
     
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  6. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Of course there are degrees of wrong, and degrees of 'murder' (and rape and robbery and any other crime).

    My "Putting humans to death is either wrong or it isn't." comment did not express my meaning - which I suspect you actually know, you bludy pedant; it was meant to cover the 'putting to death' of those (how do I put this?) who have it acted on them against their will or desire. "Victims". You know what I mean, btiw2, surely? You know I don't include those who attend Dignitas or those struggling to draw their last breath for whom the doctor administers a slightly greater dose of morphine for their sake.

    Do I personally care whether Thomas Mair lives or dies? No. Do I personally care if these two jihadist thugs ditto? No. Would I feel a tingle of satisfaction knowing that they are having a tough time or have been attacked whilst in goal? To my slight shame, yes.

    But would I feel real shame if our country were to put them to death, or help this occur? Yes, deep shame.

    These two utterly pathetic, inadequate, feeble-minded, misguided and deeply loathsome people had brave and innocent fellow human beings at their complete mercy, and they chose to kill them in a brutal fashion.

    We now have these pathetic folk at our mercy.
     
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  7. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Not quite 99%, but - yes - there seemingly always has been a majority in favour of capital punishment.

    And you know what I think of what the majority sometimes wants...
     
  8. Was it ethical for your God and war criminal hero tony blair to lie to Parliament and the country resulting in untold deaths,by taking us to war.
     
  9. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Well, the Yanks have them now, that puts them up 241t creek without a boat.
     
  10. Tommy r

    Tommy r New Member

    Well if you're murdered, you're either dead or not murdered at all ( perhaps just severely beaten, shot, stabbed etc) Why should the courts always put the rights of the perps above those exact same rights the victim should have enjoyed ?
     
  11. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    There is no doubt in my mind that some crimes are worthy of the death penalty. The issue though is how much control you want to cede to the State.
     
  12. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Blair has not been impeached...….yet.
     
  13. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Which ones, and why (I suspect I can guess)? But for what purpose? Towards what aim?
     
  14. btiw2

    btiw2 Screwfix Select

    Jeez AS. Don't encourage them to make lists!

    (That's two ells and two esses)
     
  15. btiw2

    btiw2 Screwfix Select

    I'd love to post a long-form reply, but I suspect that this thread will self-destruct soon.
     
  16. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Nah.

    Tho' I did have one post deleted... :(
     
  17. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Apparently the jihaddi in question have had their citizenship taken away from them, is this possible?
     
  18. Allsorts

    Allsorts Super Member

    Yup, no longer British. No longer our moral dilemma...
     
  19. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    How did they get nationality in the first place?
     
  20. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    That point brings us back to immigrants and the EU.
     

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