Jon Venables

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The restrictions on the media and his secret life is beyond belief.
Whose human rights are being broken.

Will Self pointed out this week, "surely it is more evil for an adult - who fully comprehends the consequences of his or her actions - to take a life than a 10-year-old boy, who can't fully understand what he is doing?"

Rubbish, all children of that age and younger know its wrong to torture another child for 2 miles before tying them to the railway tracks torturing them some more and then killing them with bricks.
 
Disagree Ponty, many damaged 10 yos would not really understand - deserved a second chance. If one or both ever offends again or looks likely to, game over, failed experiment, lock up for life, no more chances.
 
* me Grimmy, even I'm starting to think we're the same person :)

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I doubt you (or the numbnuts who made the decision) would've been so willing to give them a second chance if it had been your/their 2 year old they tortured to death
 
I think it should have been made clear when they were licenced that any offence would result in their right to anonyminity being revoked and them being thrown to the British public. I'm pretty sure that would have made him think twice before reoffending. And if not......... well, you can imagine that there are a lot of prisoners looking to make a name for themselves.
 
disagree Grim, the fact that they had made a pact with each other as what to say to the adults who intervened on that fatal 2 miles proves they knew what they were doing was wrong.
 
That's probably why we have a justice system that doesn't let the immediate victims of a crime impose and carry out their own punishment.

Although in truth I think a lot of people would recognize that their own immediate loss was not the only tragedy.
 
Ponty, knowing something is wrong isn't the same as comprehending what you have done.
 
Mr GrimNasty, I don't think you should be winding people up on this particular subject. You cannot for one minute believe that they didn't know what they were doing, the consequences of their actions (to Jamie Bulger) and that they didn't know it was wrong.
 
Who knows? But it's possible - presumably that's what 'the authorities' decided. Psychopaths know what is wrong but they have no empathy, no real understanding of what they are doing. Similarly young children with underdeveloped levels of empathy - from abuse, lack of discipline - whatever.
 
Ponty, knowing something is wrong isn't the same as comprehending what you have done.

No Grim, this wasn't a one off smack, this was a long torture in which comprehending what they were doing would of entered there minds, if not then they were seriously disturbed and shouldn't of been set free after 8 years.
Cop out by the Home office because the transition from juve prison to adult prison would of resulted in it being alot harder to give them a new life when finally freed.
 
Perhaps you're part of the thesis, but not a very significant one.
 
Ponty, the length of the crime, any forethought etc. has nothing to do with it - it still does not prove they fully understood the ramifications of what they were doing. You're reacting emotionally and not from a point of knowledge or logic.
 
The level of non-comprehension you suggest Grim would have to be on the level of retardation ... and they weren't, were they? they were just plain evil. How else would you explain their actions of pouring paint in his eyes, beating him with bricks and an iron bar etc. etc. etc.
 
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