Landlord? Giving up ,had enough.

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by billfromarran, Aug 29, 2022.

  1. billfromarran

    billfromarran Active Member

    Just spent a week clearing out,cleaning and redecorating following the disappearance of the last tenant,
    Stopped paying rent, trashed the place and her deposit will just about cover the cost of a couple of skips .
    Food left in fridge and freezer..switched off, lavatory blocked, as well as wash hand basin,Carpets stained and covered in paint splashes (Purple walls in sitting room),other carpets taken up and replaced with cheap laminate .
    So another week of work and it is going on the market. In the meantime her neighbours are treated to the sight and smell of skips full of burst rubbish bags.
    The good news is that she has moved back with her parents,taking her 2 children with her ( 2 different fathers) so the sheriff's officers (baliffs )will be able to do their stuff
  2. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Screwfix Select

    Sad to hear...
    But not all tenants are like that!
    Good luck with it all.
    Jord86 likes this.
  3. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Agree with Cando but this is not uncommon, mate of mine had all architrave, skirtings and hardwood herringbone floors ripped out and burnt by the tenant to keep warm.
  4. billfromarran

    billfromarran Active Member

    It is sad right enough. We became "accidental " landlords following the passing of elderly parents whose house had always been kept in pristine condition (old school types) ,and we had hoped to be able to have a regular income to top up the pensions etc. But it really has been such a shame seeing the place being ruined that we have decided to sell up.
  5. billfromarran

    billfromarran Active Member

    The really annoying thing is that the tenant only has to put up 2 month's rent as a deposit, so if he/she decides to stop paying rent,then they get 3 month's notice to quit ,so get a month free.
  6. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    I wish you be honest you won't regret it.
  7. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    Apart from the bad tenants, the biggest problem for the landlord is the raft of laws the govt bought in since 2017. Although implemented in good faith with the intention of providing better housing to all as well driving out bad landlords ( probably equal in numbers to bad tenants), it seems to had the opposite effect by driving up rent caused by shortage of properties coming on the market. But even this increase does not always give returns in some areas of the UK causing further issues.

    I spent some time working in a house that was being renovated after the owner gave up trying to bring the HMO up to current standards required by law and put it up for sale. The place was littered with badly done improvements, none of which would have passed to get a HMO licence.

    The new owner, was not put off by the state of the house but there was almost nothing salvageable, except the boiler that was 18month old and in good nick.
  8. Jord86

    Jord86 Screwfix Select

    Could you not pay 9-11% a month to a letting agent via a contract that stipulates they or their insurance takes care of rent arrears, damages, etc? Not all tenants are like that.
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  9. billfromarran

    billfromarran Active Member

    We are or were using letting agents, the first one was useless and the present agent is very efficient but they are restrained by the laws which is definitely on the side of the tenant.
    Over the years we did have some brilliant tenants who really looked after the place, kept the garden nicely and when they did eventually leave, the house was immaculate. (they tended to be of an older age group)
    The last tenant, apart from trashing the place has refused to provide a forwarding address, however we can find out fairly easily.We will take her to court for the damage etc. Did it with one of the former tenants, and she will have to stump up.
    In the meantime,as the house is in a fairly small village word gets around ,she has kids at the local school and it is being put about that we are bad landlords, evicting her for non payment .
    As I said at the beginning we have had enough. The good news is that the house is worth about three and a half times its value when we started renting it out.
  10. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Letting agents are dogs with no teeth due to as you say the 'laws' .:(
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  11. I-Man

    I-Man Screwfix Select

    Many letting agents are just downright lazy, only interested in commission and useless when it comes to dealing with maintenance & management issues.
    Rick1632 likes this.
  12. Muzungu

    Muzungu Screwfix Select

    People in the street behind me also became "amateur" landlords and had a horrendous experience.

    Met a mother at the school gates (immediate red flag!) who was looking for somewhere to rent with her two kids and husband, husband working. The owners of the property had very good and well paid jobs with Google (fortunately) and were relocating to Europe for a time.

    Immediately the regulations were changed over Covid, suspending evictions, the tenants stopped paying rent and never started again despite the husband's job never altering, i.e. no furlough or reduction in wages. He was a delivery driver, I think for Amazon, which should again have been a red flag as this is not a cheap area for renting.

    They finally got them out about 3 months ago with an estimated loss of around £20,000 in rent and damages and there is absolutely nothing they can do about it. CCJ is pointless as the family are, not to put too fine a point of it, penniless scum and have no shame in lying and ripping anyone off they come into contact with. Apparently they were allocated a council house after finally leaving, they now have 5 children.

    Yes, the "landlords" didn't do their due diligence and have learnt a very expensive lesson. It is now on the market again but with home owner guarantor for the rent, insurance for non payment of rent and bank statement proof of earnings. I am hearing, anecdotally, of many landlords who are selling up as the regulations now are such that if someone just stops paying rent it can easily take over a year to get them out and thousands in bailiffs and court fees, let alone lost rent.

    It is not surprising that rents are soaring across the country as many landlords are just not willing to take the risk on those on benefits or low paid jobs and are also selling up having been badly burnt over the last few years.
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  13. billfromarran

    billfromarran Active Member

    That's correct, as soon as any action is taken against a tenant,they are accused of "harrassment"
    Kingscurate likes this.
  14. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    Sadly our politicians bring in laws without any consideration to cause and effects. As we speak another slew of rental laws would have been drawn up but for the fact we have a government in absentia. You need not look further than this forum to see the number of certificates required plus strict adherence to rules and regulation.

    IMHO, badly drafted laws only encourage bad landlords and discourage good ones. The ever rising rentals and scarcity of accommodation speaks volumes.
    Kingscurate likes this.
  15. robertpstubbs

    robertpstubbs Screwfix Select

    Are you actually on Arran? Would the house work as a holiday let?
  16. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    Good question ! I hear many landlords fed up with the excessive bureaucracy are turning to Airbnb or other such venues instead of rental as returns are higher. Although you can still get bad tenants who can thrash your place in a single weekend, they tend to target larger properties which can house a large party. But here too many authorities are clamping down which means more bad landlords
  17. teabreak

    teabreak Screwfix Select

    We got out a couple of years back, to be fair we had a number of good tenants, but they each only stayed a year.
    Two bought houses (one opposite the one they rented from us:)) one left to look after her father and the other couple moved on.
    We were scrupulous about the condition for letting so each time spent time and money getting it back to pristine.
    Then there is the void period and all the agents fees to re-let.
    Just not worth the hassle. Throw into the mix all the extra "rights" they have now where it will be even harder to get rid of a bad one I am glad to be well out of it.
    Rather than improve conditions for tenants the new rules are simply causing the rental market to shrink.:(
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  18. Mike83

    Mike83 Screwfix Select

    In the months ahead it could get even more difficult for landlords.
    If people are literally skint then what will their priorities be.
    Can see people prioritising food and warmth over the rent payment.
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  19. billfromarran

    billfromarran Active Member

    No, the house is on the mainland, near Glasgow and ideal for commuting. If it had been on Arran, we could have made £1200/week during the high season.
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2022
  20. Rick1632

    Rick1632 Active Member

    This - in particular the national chains.

    I originally rented my house out with Temples. Then I visited the property and found it in a right state, with items stolen, and the checkout report was just a whitewash. I told them they were sacked, and they handed over their entire file on the property including the check-in reports which I'd never seen - found out a few jobs I'd paid to have done, weren't actually done as noted by the students who moved in after the work was supposed to have been completed.

    New agency were brilliant for years, until they were taken over by another national chain. Now my property manager who is from the original business is still excellent, but otherwise it's a bit of a joke. Twice I've had kids on the other end of the phone giving me faulty legal advice.

    I think for anyone looking for an agency - use a local business and one that markets properties similar to yours.

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