LED ceiling light wiring

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Sach2606, Feb 18, 2024.

  1. Sach2606

    Sach2606 New Member

    Wondering if anyone could help.

    I am about to replace my ceiling lights with the modern led ceiling lights but noticed it only has two red wires coming out. The old ceiling rose has few sets of wires connected to the terminal block. Which wires do I need replace?
    See photos attached.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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  2. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    You will need to put the wires in a junction box and feed your light from that, assuming theres room in the ceiling above for the JB.

    Something like this.

    Also the light you've got looks metal with no earth connection, looks a bit cheap and naff to be honest.

    Edit..having said that you probably have enough room in the fitting to connect the wires using connectors or wagos.
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2024
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  3. Wellwisher

    Wellwisher Well-Known Member

    You connect to the same terminals as the pendant you are removing. The outer ones.
    If you don’t understand why you should call a sparks.
  4. MGW

    MGW Screwfix Select

    There are junction boxes to replace the ceiling rose upload_2024-2-18_9-57-15.jpeg which have the same connections, the one @Ind spark has linked to is maintenance free type, but one can use a terminal block upload_2024-2-18_10-0-37.png inside the light instead. The light you show is clearly not designed for the UK, in other countries they use the switch back box as a junction box, however our rules say "A circuit protective conductor shall be run to and terminated at each point in wiring" so even class II equipment should have a parking terminal for the earth to be terminated only "lamp holder having no exposed-conductive-parts and suspended" is allowed not to have an earth with installed equipment, non installed have different rules.

    I look at the light, and wonder if you can cut a large hole in centre and simply leave the ceiling rose in place?
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  5. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select

    3rd line down on yellow sticker states that the fitting is indeed ‘double insulated’ / clearly the symbol we’re used to seeing that signifies this is different but, it is there in writing, plain for all to see :)
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  6. Ind spark

    Ind spark Screwfix Select

    I'll take your word for it :p
  7. arrow

    arrow Screwfix Select

    Looks a piece of cheap tat, cannot see any conformity marks on it. If I bought it it would be going back or in the bin.
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  8. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    As above, send them back and get a refund.

    l would not install them in my own house or for a customer.
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