May's advisors.

Various sources are saying the D notice story is false. I for one hope that's the truth.

 

I think to prove that you'd need to look for cases where an MP consistently votes against his party on certain topics. Conservatives tend to always vote in favour of the private sector so finding those would be hard - probably easier to find Labour MPs, even if it's not more prevalent in that party.

However, I still think it's interesting to actually read parts of some debates - especially if your MP makes a contribution.
In truth, it's probably also a waste of time. I live in a shire so I'm getting a Conservative and my vote counts for nothing. If my MP was any good then I'd vote for him no matter which party he belonged to. It drives me crazy when people say they're voting for "May" or "Corbyn" (unless they live in Islington or Maidstone). But that's because, like you (?), I think the party system is a barrier to representative democracy.

 

I agree, but we had a referendum on an alternative voting system. I lost that one too.

 

Yes, a referendum was offered on a ridiculously fudged av system.
Iirc it was sort of designed to fail, it was that incomprehensible.

 

Something tells me that the UK will adopt similar restrictions (to the US) on the use of these panels after this tragic accident.

 

Not the old "Lessons will be learnt " carp that said every time somebody ***** up.

 

That's just the way it is and always has been.
Companies that manufacture and install sprinkler systems will also be feeling optimistic.

 

Who would you say 'funked up' in this instance?

 

At the end of the day, somebody signed it off, now I wouldn't want to be in their shoes right now.

 

You bet your life the one who's blamed will not be the same as who gave permission for the tiles to be used.

 

Are you saying that the refurb works weren't carried out in a manner that complied with the regulations, or that a fall guy will be strung up for the people to see?

 

They may be banned in the US and other countries for use on tower blocks, I don't think the same applies to the UK, yet?

 

If the restrictive powers of a D-notice were applied you wouldn't hear about it anyway, would you?

 

Christ DA, you almost sound like Corbyn,, trying to make political capital out of a tragedy.

 

It was a political decision not to release the report and act on it as it was a political decision not to make sure homes were fit for human habitation.

 

Which is exactly why the parliamentary whip system needs disbanding. MP's need to be able to vote on all matters by following their conscience,, not what the leader of their particular party says they should vote.

 

A fall guy. As all ways.