May's advisors.

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I too was shocked, though not surprised to see the SWP out in central London last night. There was the one big vigil/protest in Kensington largely made up of residents and then there was this small group waving SWP placards marching through central London chanting may out.
The SWP are a cult of authoritarian rapist apologists who have been a thorn in the side of 'the left' for decades. Hijacking protests and marches, instigating violence and behaving like the left's version of the BNP at every turn.
Their attempted hijack of this hideous event just shows what scum they really are. And I'm talking about the cc, the leading group. The foot soldiers are just good hearted but weak minded fools who follow the scum that order them about in a quasi Stalinesque obsession with their own power and delusion.

By all means rail against the SWP but to think they represent the left is the same as thinking the BNP represent the right.
The only scum I noticed are the ones who installed flammable cladding and closed 10 fire stations.
 
I don't disagree with the statement that those who did those things are scum.
However, I also consider authoritarian rapist apologists to be scum.
 
Christ DA, you almost sound like Corbyn,, trying to make political capital out of a tragedy.
No, just telling the truth. For once. And as for making political capital out of a tragedy, try "terrorists freind" for a change. Who let the Libyan " freedom fighters" in and out with no halt or hindrance? You know, the freedom fighters who carried out the Manchester bombing? Oh, that's right - it would have been the sainted Theresa.
 
What about the empty properties owned by Russian or Chinese or US citizens as long term investments with no intention of either occupying or letting them?
I don't know how many properties are owned by these type of investors in the local area, it would probably be sufficient to house all of those made homeless following this tragedy I would have thought.
That really doesn't matter at the moment though, yes maybe something should be done about this situation, but that's a completely seperate argument.
I was criticising Corbys populist spiel, his polititical point scoring agenda and I'm sure many of his retarded followers cheered his latest offering that advocated beating down the rich.
In practice however, you know, when you actually think about what he was spouting you SHOULD come to realise that it's complete and utter barlocks.
Is he suggesting that, May, rocks up into Westminster on Monday and announces that she's provided new legislative measures all by herself over the weekend?
Parliament need not worry itself over the details, it's done, end of.
The government can now requisition private property to house those affected by this national emergency.

Grenfell tower had 120 one and two bedroom flats, so, if you take a conservative estimate of 3 people/dwelling that amount to approx 360 people. Sadly some of them didn't make it out, but even if they did it's hardly a crisis situation that would warrant a private property grab that Corby suggested.
Oh, how his mindless supporters loved it though!
 
If you watch the video of when Corbyn visited Grenfell you'll see that the idea of using local empty properties was brought up by a local...he happened to agree with it and later called for it. I agree too.
The number is crazy. Even Johnny Osbourne tried to do something about Buy to Leave back in i think 2014. Even HE thought it was out of order!
And the government already have compulsory purchase powers. Have done for ever.
You're probably right that it's not needed though to be fair.
 
If there was a 'post makes me feel a bit sick' button, I may have clicked.

I know it's pointless replying on here, but hey.

Once again - as it was all the way through the Brexit threads - some are happy to take the behaviour of a few individuals and abuse it to their political ends.

Anyhoo, anyone else notice how the 'ethnic' and 'immigrant' survivors and relatives of the deceased behaved with such moving dignity and articulacy - often in their 2nd or 3rd language - when describing the heart-breaking events? Blimey, it's almost as if 'these' people are as civilised as us Brits.

Anyhoo, did you know that Germany, too, has outlawed these claddings following some fiery incidents in their country - little prevarication there even tho' the country is apparently run a despot who is working towards a Third Reich?

Anyhoo, did you know that one of the sought-after 'advantages' of a Brexit postulated by some Leavers was a relaxing of the demands on housing standards from the EU on our Sceptred Isle?

Hey, no, I don't apologise for Brexiting this thread.

Someone on here said he believes there must be two types of people who populate the world and this forum. I couldn't agree more.
That's just words on a screen, DA. What's your point?
 
I'm not arguing that the SWP weren't out in Central London last night but this picture wasn't taken then and there was it...It's an unrelated picture last modified over a year ago ;)
Dishonest?
Much?

Just googled social worker protestors or similar and that was thrown up, glad you agree they were there though, and that they are as moral as the BNP.
 
Just googled social worker protestors or similar and that was thrown up, glad you agree they were there though, and that they are as moral as the BNP.
So you just decided to randomly throw it into the thread :confused:

Moral is an odd word to use. I'm sure many BNP would say the had good Christian based morals and that many SWP would say summat similar.
What they share is an authoritarian outlook and politik. And an authoritarian outlook takes you to the social structures of Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler.
Though to be fair, the BNP are higher on the authoritarian axis than the SWP.
 
For that matter, someone might start having a go at Queenie. They are her people and so on..... When are the firm going to show up?
Eureka, give them temporary digs at Buckingham palace.
It's local, and I'm sure they have the room.
 
If you watch the video of when Corbyn visited Grenfell you'll see that the idea of using local empty properties was brought up by a local...he happened to agree with it and later called for it. I agree too.
The number is crazy. Even Johnny Osbourne tried to do something about Buy to Leave back in i think 2014. Even HE thought it was out of order!
And the government already have compulsory purchase powers. Have done for ever.
You're probably right that it's not needed though to be fair.
Of course Corby agreed with it, it made him look good to his supporters, the complete lack of substance or the means to deliver such an idea that would be of any benefit to those who may need it now, was immaterial.
He just wants to be loved, bless.
 
Of course Corby agreed with it, it made him look good to his supporters, the complete lack of substance or the means to deliver such an idea that would be of any benefit to those who may need it now, was immaterial.
He just wants to be loved, bless.
Well to be fair it may not be a quick fix but going forward I think it could be a sound approach to rehousing. Apparently in that area, 2/3 of the empty housing stock is buy to leave, in the wider borough - 3/4.
Compulsory purchase orders are used regularly when a road get's built for example so why not buy up these buy to leaves, convert them for social use and house people in them? There's likely to be other blocks condemned now after all.

Where do you stand on buy to leave Longs? No need to reference Grenfell, just in general?
 
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No, not really.


Actually, you are right. The comments are different.

He said what he believed, and thought right.

The other comments were just made to make people believe, weren't they.

Populist rhetoric

Oh, and to quote you. the complete lack of substance or the means to deliver such an idea
 
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