Need to sort this bathroom out

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by bond007, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. bond007

    bond007 Member

    So the firtse line tiling around the bath, don't grout or silicone?

    Tank behind the bath before sealing it?
     
  2. kiaora

    kiaora Well-Known Member

    Yes, that’s right.

    Installing the bath is the time to seal it to the wall, ( must be filled with water)

    It’s no good sealing around bath and then filling with water , it will move and break seal !

    When you tile around bath, not grouting or sealing leaves a tidy finish, no mould etc

    Regards
    Peter
     
  3. bond007

    bond007 Member

    Interesting, never seen or heard anyone do it that way. Batten the fixing across the wall and then screwing bathb fixing in?
     
  4. kiaora

    kiaora Well-Known Member

    I’ve been in the game a long time,
    When you say batten etc.. I don’t know what you mean ?

    I can help you, but explain batten wall ?
    Most baths have L shaped brackets to fix to wall, if wall is out of square, chop out so bath fits to wall.

    Make sure feet are adjusted right, and bath level.
    Chop out wall to fit L brackets, ,
    Fill with water etc... as previously said



    Regards
    Peter
     
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  5. bond007

    bond007 Member

    Batten wall meaning making a frame for the bath to sit on and screw in the L shape brackets
     
  6. kiaora

    kiaora Well-Known Member

    Ok
    So you have 2 sources of problem.
    You seal bath to the timber, and the timber must be sealed to wall ?
    Why ?
    I think it’s best to seal bath to the wall ,
    Not make problems for yourself ?

    Adding an extra layer of seal required ?

    But hey, I’m giving you my experience of many years in the game,

    It’s your call ..


    Good luck

    Peter
     
  7. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    Standard thickness plastic baths all move at edges if they are not fully supported to wall or fully bonded to walls.
    It can be possible to use silicone to glue the bath to some wall surfaces.
    You could use baton of timber for lower edge of rim of bath to sit on.
    Or you could do both.
    I know I installed a bath gluing it to wall for a certain reason. It had to be replaced many years later due to a tenant causing damage and I struggled to cut the bath out it was so well held and sealed to wall. So silicone can work well.
    Some decent plastic baths do not use a U frame for feet, but use feet fixed pieces of metal below bath, so you have clear space for fixing a baton to wall all around. Bath brackets can then be fitted underneath to baton.
    Or if U frame type, just stop batons where U frame is.
    I would use good quality silicone to finish joint to tiles.
    Got to redo the joint every few years when needed, but no big deal
     
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  8. bond007

    bond007 Member

    So u saying best to chase the frame into the wall?

    I thought the wooden frame way gives extra support to the bath trim as a whole.
     
  9. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    Baton of timber - say no more than 1” X 2” screwed to walls just every 40cm or so.
    Maybe Kiaora thought you meant a frame surrounding bath
     
  10. bond007

    bond007 Member

    If this same bath was used and rotated, the corner is slightly damaged. This corner would be in the right angle against the wall.
    Would it be OK to use or not?
     

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  11. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    A nice flat topped new bath would cost as little as £80 - £100, so I wouldn’t pull that old and out of date shaped bath out and then use it again.
    As a landlord it will cost you money if you do not get a proper job done - and as quick as possible to earn money from a tenant.
     
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  12. bond007

    bond007 Member

    You dead right, just needed a second opinion...
     
  13. bond007

    bond007 Member

    Which silicone best to use around Bath sealing?
     
  14. bond007

    bond007 Member

    What tool would I need to take this nut out of shower head rail..

    Standard Alan key wasn't big enough

    Need to take the nut out so the fixing can go through the pole.
     

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  15. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    Bigger Allen key
     
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  16. bond007

    bond007 Member

    Any guesses what size approx
     
  17. Heat

    Heat Well-Known Member

    Really not sure. I have a set of Allen keys which gives me the proper key
     
  18. bond007

    bond007 Member

    Guys, think the plumber may have made abit of school boy error. That bath and tiles is all done, but the panel panel is short now. Basically the bath is a bit high so when fitting the bath panel, about 45mm gap showing from the bottom.

    Was gonna put a rebated timber and slide the bath panel under it , like it shows on the picture.

    How can I overcome this now?

    Cos alot Wood trim will be showing at the bottom of I do it the above way.
     

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  19. kiaora

    kiaora Well-Known Member

    Looks like the same size as the radiator stem key,
     
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  20. bond007

    bond007 Member

    You could be right ... Will try that.

    Just had a look and that's a round connection with a square within it
     

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