New Bathroom layout

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by Danielle93, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Active Member

    But as luxuries go... a very nice one!
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  2. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member

    Where does the existing toilet waste go to then? There must be a vertical waste pipe somewhere beyond that wall (or is it boxed-in inside your bathroom? Any chance of a photo of that wall?)

    Worse case scenario is that you'd need to use a 1400mm long bath and also have it set a few inches out from that 'top' wall. To be honest, if you will mainly use it for showers, then this extra elbow room would be great; showering standing in a bath is usually a hellish experience, so this would make it much better.

    You also have plenty of room in that bathroom to do this.

    Just remember the proviso - these tiled ledges will be drenched in water so must be 100% watertight and remain that way.
  3. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member

    Yes, but only a gentle slope. I presume your plumber is happy that this can be done or else he'd have said.

    Where the soil pipe goes out through that wall can always - in theory - be lowered if needed, and joined to the vertical pipe a few inches lower.
  4. Danielle93

    Danielle93 Active Member

    WAS boxed in behind the toilet

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  5. Danielle93

    Danielle93 Active Member

    Silcone, silicone everywhere :p:p
  6. Danielle93

    Danielle93 Active Member

    I also got my quote back from this first plumber, £1500 which seems steep considering there's no redesign, just replacing the existing cream/green suite, no tiling etc. Or I'm in the wrong profession...
  7. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Active Member

    Best to have a slight, just very slight, slope down toward the bath. It will prevent standing water.
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  8. furious_customer

    furious_customer Active Member

    If you have toddlers or young kids then a bath is a necessity,
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  9. Pollowick

    Pollowick Well-Known Member

    I believe that 90mm can also be used - some of the pan frames come with 90mm. Although finding pipes may be a problem in the UK.
  10. KIAB

    KIAB Well-Known Member

    McAlpine do 90mm pan connectors,extension pieces & flexi pan connectors.

    So much grief if your soil pipe is cast iron,stick to 110mm if possible, as adaptors readily available from CI to 110mm plastic.
  11. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member

    So, is the wall to the LEFT - where these pipes disappear to - on the outside?
  12. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member

    That's for the items and the installation - new bath, taps, basin toilet?

    Depending on the quality of the items, that is potentially on the high side, I'd agree; the biggest part of this job is going to be the boxing-in, tiling, flooring and finishing off.

    Definitely allow for a decent-width rigid glass bath-shower screen and don't entertain curtains for a nano-second, although a clammy, mouldy, lightweight PVC shower curtain might fit in best with your silk walls...
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  13. Danielle93

    Danielle93 Active Member

    Nope, I already have my toilet and sink, thats just for the plumbing . I have another 2 coming to give me quotes though so we'll see what they say. If they ever turn up...
  14. Danielle93

    Danielle93 Active Member

    No, unfortunately bathroom is in the middle with bedrooms either side. Not sure if goes under the floor or through the wall.
  15. Isitreally

    Isitreally Well-Known Member

    Sounds like my 1st house.
  16. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member



    That is ridiculous.
  17. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member

    It disappears in through that wall in the bathroom, and there's no trace of it in the room on the other side?

  18. Danielle93

    Danielle93 Active Member

    Goes over the stairway. Where it's boxed in. In the bedroom I'm not sure. Looked as much as I could under the floor (from where the electrics had been done) but couldn't see the waste pipe.
  19. Allsorts

    Allsorts Well-Known Member

    How old is this house? Could the pipe be going straight down after it's passed over the stairway?

    (I don't know why I'm asking as I doubt it makes any difference :) )

    It does suggest, tho', that it would be hard to lower the pipe height as it passes through that wall, so how that could affect the toilet pan height in its new position I don't know; there must be a certain fall.

    Anyhoo, I suspect that's the first thing the plumber would have checked before agreeing the new position of the pan.
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  20. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Well-Known Member

    Personally I would stick with the existing layout and spend the saving on nice fittings. Moving your toilet where you propose is going to extend the waste run. Going to be tricky to maintain the correct fall. Nothing worse than a poorly flushing loo.

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