Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by london_guitarist, Aug 11, 2022.
No its not. Do you know if they are registered or not, like with NICE or NAPIT?
Thank you. Yes, they are a NICEIC approved contractor, domestic installer, and PAT.
Yes they did drill those massive holes. And there's another huge hole in the soon to be WC which is next to this cupboard.
Get in touch with the NICEIC, show them the standard work they have done and say it is not acceptable. It should be guaranteed which means it will have to be rectified either by the contractor or by someone else FOC.
At least the floor can't get flooded, with drain holes that size provided!
Thanks for your help. I'll be having a conversation with the electrician later to give them an opportunity to resolve. If they disagree I'll contact NICEIC and see if we can get reputable electrician to do the work.
Which regs are 'actually' being broken. Not just opinions.
The registration bodies will not be interested from what I can gather and legally you have to give the contractor an opportunity to rectify his work apart from under extreme circumstances.
That is not to say that some aspects of the work are not shoddy. (holes)
Do you mean a nominal 230 Vac ?
Water when clean is not a very good conductor.
I said in my last post "I'll be having a conversation with the electrician later to give them an opportunity to resolve". I'm not unreasonable and came here to get some advice because I'm not a professional in this field and do not want to make any false accusations about someones work.
Was a general question...aimed at the sparks.
It all comes down to how you interpret "accessible", the sensible and I believe legal interpretation is "accessible to an average person for the intended use", but the disingenuous amongst us would say - the moon is accessible because man has walked on the moon, so its not as difficult as getting to the moon, therefore its accessible.
Incidentally, I was employed to oversee all testing and commissioning on a very large contract, and in every staff kitchen the architect had specified to install as that photo plus they were inside kitchen base cupboards. I refused to have anything to do with it and wrote across all test sheets "Unsafe to maintain test or operate, refer to architect" - that was my parting shot.
I think if you were doing an EICR what would you code it, personally I would not even code it a C3 as you can get to it, so like has been said although there is guidance about where to put a consumer unit thats really for a new build as we all know its not always possible... I agree its a stupid place to put it, if could be they have done it to amendment 2 which requires an SPD and type A RCD's, there may not have been enough room in the old 17th edition MK board to fit an SPD..
If I was trying to defend it I would say the cables are coming from below and there is not really much room to put any trunking or anything to get the cables past the head and meter area, maybe on the right hand side? But personally I think anyone that fits a BG board should automatically be removed from the CPS's, I have yet to see a decent BG board installed, you know if you see one of those its gunna be a dogs dinner..
Guessing it’s installed to north american standards?
Possibly their interpretation of grounding.
"C1 - Unsafe to inspect, maintain, test or operate, relocate to an accessible location", I would never allow anyone to work in a potentially dangerous situation.
So much like tens of thousands of socket outlets in older buildings..100 mm off the floor ?
the disingenuous amongst us would say - the moon is accessible because man has walked on the moon, so its not as difficult as getting to the moon, therefore its accessible.
C1 issues are the ones where if you touch it you may die, such as live exposed conductors accessible to touch.
So it’s not a C1.
It maybe a C2, which is the “what if” category, such as what if the insulation is damaged and then the live conductor will be exposed to touch and there isn’t a RCD for supplementary protection?
It definitely could be a C3.
How do you know there aren't any, considering it's as difficult for you to check as it was for the guy doing the original connections.
Most connection are about 200mm off deck...so quite accessible. The busbar fingers into the MCB clamps could be checked with a dentist mirror as they should be anyway.
Dont see any problem whatsoever.
If if were a BG consumer unit with a drop down cover the devices would be accessible, although far too low.
However the cover would not fully open.
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