New IKEA ceiling light fitting

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Rushie10, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. Rushie10

    Rushie10 New Member

    Hello, I'm new here, and new to electrical work in general, I was hoping for some help. Really I have 3 questions:

    1. I'm trying to take down an old light and put up a new IKEA light. I've included some pictures below of the old light. I'm confused as the old light has 2 black wires going into it, how do I know which black wire goes into the live and which goes into the neutral on the IKEA electrical block connector? - or does it not matter?

    2. The 2 red wires go into a chocolate block, do I leave this as is?

    3. There is also no place for the 2 earth wires on the IKEA connector, am I right to put those into a chocolate block? Would a 10A be ok?

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    Thanks very much for any help!
     
  2. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Well-Known Member

    Looks like an Edison screw lamp holder, the black wire going to the centre contact should be phase, mark it with brown tape, the other black mark with blue tape. The two reds will be connected together again and the earth's will also be connected the same. I have assumed that the installer of the fitting knew what they were doing, I am a little doubtful as no supplementary heat resistant sleeve has been used.
     
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  3. Rushie10

    Rushie10 New Member

    Where should there be a heat resistant sleeve?
    Which one is the center contact? The one on the left or the right in the picture?

    Thanks.
     
  4. spirits are real 2016

    spirits are real 2016 Active Member

    there should be heat resistant on the lamp holder cores if you look inside the lamp holder without bulb you should be able to work out which side is the live terminal.
     
  5. Rushie10

    Rushie10 New Member

    The picture I posted above is of the old lamp, the one that is currently there, neither of the black wires go into the centre of the lamp, the earth wire does.

    There is one black wire on the left, and another on the right, how do I know which one of these black wires should go into the live and neutral blocks on my new IKEA lamp?
     
  6. terrymac

    terrymac Well-Known Member

    The only way to be sure which black is the switched live and which is the neutral ,is by testing ,with a suitable test instrument .a multimeter for example. Its impossible to tell from your picture.
     
  7. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Well-Known Member

    I think you may be out of your depth here, take real care.
     
  8. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Well-Known Member

    Terry, look at the OP's replies up to this point, I do not think he is competent to do this.
     
  9. terrymac

    terrymac Well-Known Member

    Hi Bob ,yes its quite obvious by op's own statements that he is new to electrics and has very little knowledge of electrics. Which is why i deliberately witheld any mention of anything relating to live testing or neon s/drivers etc. I had in mind continuity testing on a dead circuit ,mains isolated ,to determine switched line ,if the op had replied.
    Regards Terry
     
  10. robertpstubbs

    robertpstubbs Member

    Wouldn’t the chocolate melt?
     
  11. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Its lovely fitting that stuff when the lighting system is ''loop in box''
     
  12. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    Welcome back :)
     
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  13. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Cheers Chips..:)
     
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  14. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    Good to see you back JP.
     
  15. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Thanks Sen. Trust you and all are keeping well m8
     
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  16. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Sen been looking at property's and have come to the conclusion that nothing will beat old builds - I will never get used to tapping walls and hearing that hollow sound which means Dot and Dab..aye lumps of plasterboard stuck on 't' wall and skimmed instead of proper undercoat plaster and skim ..flipping heck m8 (I know Lec likes that kind of stuff..;))
     
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  17. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Well-Known Member

    Welcome home JP
     
  18. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Lol cheers Baz..I dont know m8 about all these new builds and relatively new builds..suppose it is the way now and in the future..I mean you compare say an oldish council house to a new build construction technique wise..the old council house will win hands down..cripes they actually have floorboards on ground floor (sometimes not in the kitchen though) and not concrete and stuff. And the newer builds use use t and g flooring and not proper floorboards on upper floors. Strewth how can you whip in a quick spur when its boarded out with that t and g stuff?..Floorboards = easy job
     
  19. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    K'n hate new builds.
     
  20. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    And another thing Chips on some of the housing estates every one you go in the ceiling is finished in what I presume is Artex - you know its got that horrible whirling trowelled or whatever as a finish. I mean you would have to skim it out - more time and money....pwhorrrrrrr
     

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