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Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by chippie244, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    If the bigots wern't give a platform to spout their race hate, from both sides of the spectrum, then that may help.

    The redtops in Britian that have done so much to spread racial hatred, which like it or not has contributed to brexit, are all owned by non UK taxpayers.

    I think the internet has however allowed the spread of hatred to a much greater amount, I'm not sure what can be done about this other than not allowing this way of thinking to become acceptable in mainstream thinking.

    Yes you can be a bigoted racist but you are not allowed to think that this is OK and that you can spread your bile without consequence.

    I know that various members of this forum think I set this as a trap to make them say something racist but if you don't think racist thoughts then you don't say racist statements, I know one member on here who has told me that they can't express their views because they would get banned and I think that is good. Your views are abhorrent and not fit to be written.

    I know the u/s will come after me for this and twist my words but frankly my dear I don't give a damn.
     
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  2. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Ah, 'Gone with the Wind' Rhet Butler. No original comment.
     
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  3. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Have you made any original comments?
    I didn't think you would be the first to make an inane reply but there you go.
     
  4. MrA

    MrA Member


    Who decides what level of bigotry is acceptable or unacceptable? Better to tackle it with reason and facts, banning anything appears to give it a mystique and creates victims who feel marginalised and prone to extreme measures.

    Racism has been devalued it's levelled at people in a laissez faire manner to shut down debate (like peole who voted for Brexit), in fact there are a number isms pertaining to several minority groups that we have to be mindful of, creating a one society cannot be formed on identity politics as it is today it even frustrated people like me.
     
  5. Jord86

    Jord86 Screwfix Select

    :rolleyes: Five sentences and one paragraph of original writing and you pick up on that!? You're not in Kansas anymore.
     
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  6. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    That is a discussion that needs to be had, outright censorship is wrong but also giving a mainstream platform to racists is wrong.
    I understand what you are saying re Brexit and had been said many times not all leavers are racist but all racists are leavers and you can't have a discussion without raising that point. There are vocal leavers on here who are self admitted racists and they are very happy calling others racist.
    This wasn't supposed to be a post about brexit but rather the wider world wide problem of extremists and who is radicalising them.
     
  7. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    You should tryout for Pointless, Bob.

    Think you and it would be a good fit.
     
  8. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Challenging the lies is the main concern really.

    Lots of the utterly factually incorrect nonsense that loudmouths on all sides spout is just waved through.

    The volume of dishonesty means that plenty slips by.
     
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  9. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Reading this and Mr Brenton's manifesto, call me racist, but you are implying that the part of society, refusing even attempt in to being inclusive part, the one, that does self segregation, rejection of ways of host nations culture isn't a tad to blame?
     
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  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Smoke me a kipper and I'll be back for breakfast.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2019
  11. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    I think either you've miss read what I said or I've explained myself badly.
     
  12. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    True, Trump lives by that philosophy.
     
  13. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Not sure how you come to that conclusion at all.
     
  14. dinkydo

    dinkydo Screwfix Select



    Hey Mr A, liked your post but don’t have a clue what laissez faire is, having said that “Who decides what level of bigotry is acceptable or unacceptable?” Well on this forum its Chippie or he would like to think so, When he isn’t polishing his halo he amuses himself thinking up contentious threads and posting, then hoping that some long standing members or new (he doesn’t discriminate) falls into the trap of trying to engage in reasonable debate (he’s a bit like the venus fly trap for the unwary) but don’t take my word for it check out his history,

    In my opinion if he had his way he would ban quite a few on here that had a different opinion to himself, but he isn’t a moderator so other peeps opinions which differ to his are allowed access to this forum

    Personally I enjoy his contributions they always give me a giggle and brighten my day and really miss him on the occasions when he receives a ban

    Don’t misunderstand me this thread is one of the saddest I have commented on and my heart goes out to the poor people involved in this tragedy, but seeing as your a new member I thought I would enlighten you, all is not as it seems.

    As sure as night follows day he will be along very shortly.
     
  15. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Racism definition is presented only in one side- extremism, even talking about; the other side is equally racist, but in a form that is "not", just because they do not speak about it with us, for them we are nothing- "irrelevant things", that are of way lesser importance, than their imaginary friend. It is manifested same in their native countries and cultures, but also in the host nations/countries.
     
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  16. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    As sad as it is what happened, two prominent ISIS members, killed by a drone in Syria have been radicalised in the same mosque
     
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  17. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    I did mention extremism on both sides if that is what you mean?
     
  18. dinkydo

    dinkydo Screwfix Select

    Be careful Alvy someone on here will accuse you of racism
     
  19. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

  20. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Kinda sorta, but calling one side being extremists, just for talking about it isn't fair, when other side is extremist by nature of their sect rules and "laws"
     

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