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Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by chippie244, Mar 16, 2019.

  1. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

  2. dinkydo

    dinkydo Screwfix Select


    Ah the penny’s dropped
     
  3. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    No one is saying you are Alv, I think wires have got crossed somewhere.
     
  4. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Where did you read the article?

    You are sure that it was that mosque.

    Not just another mosque with the same name?
     
  5. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    I'm not making an argument, just don't see it sensible, to be jumping on to willing to discuss issues frankly upon as to call those racists. Discussing isn't behaviour. Extremist behaviour, by rejecting discussion or culture of host nation is called freedom right?...
    Apple's and pears Chip
     
  6. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    These claims about the Al-Noor mosque in Christchurch are absolutely proving the point that many have lost utterly the ability to filter and grade information.
     
  7. Jord86

    Jord86 Screwfix Select



    Referencing our earlier comments I think the widespread accessibility of the Internet in the last twenty years and the increased media coverage and indeed social media itself on items that are related to behaviour influenced by the Internet has done more to damage society than improve it, whether we're all conversing on a forum or not. If a frothy loony stood on a chair in your local, ranting and raving with a swastika in one hand and a copy of Mein Kampf in the other about the merits of the Jewish community, he'd be ejected without delay, but on the infinite Internet, he finds countless places to espouse his views, some amongst like minded loonies, which then in turn begins to slowly grow and snowball, to possibly lead to some of the atrocities we've discussed on here. I think in creating a monster, you need a way to control it and rein it in before it gets out of hand, which is where we seem to be struggling now.
     
  8. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    I'm asking a question of some one who is putting across a reasoned argument not talking to Trevor the troll's monkey.
     
  9. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    No-one is jumping on you Alvy.

    Its just you have made a very strong statement on the Al-Noor mosque explaining the attack as the place is a hotbed of ISIS recruitment.

    Surely you can see how these stories get legs based on incorrect info.
     
  10. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Exactly.
    Well, I'm sure it was some AU publication, the two droned "Australians" named, dot necessarily worldwide but Australian cesorship
     
  11. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Monkey spanker I think is the correct term mate.
     
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  12. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    This is a problem, should we try, do we have the right and indeed can we censor the internet?
     
  13. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Not the same, but do open this archive
    http://archive.is/phtxU
     
  14. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Garbage mate.

    Neil Prakash the guy you linked to being killed is not even dead.

    But once the idea has got in your head instead of accepting perhaps you have not got correct info suddenly its a global conspiracy to silence the "truth"?
     
  15. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    I was thinking of organ grinders but...
     
  16. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    I would rather not click random links.
     
  17. dinkydo

    dinkydo Screwfix Select

    No we can’t censor the internet and neither should we, otherwise who would make the decision on what we have access to ? Yourself perhaps ?
     
  18. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    There are Aussies and New Zealanders fighting for ISIS.

    I have no doubt one or some of those visited the mosque in Christchurch.

    But that is a way away from the mosque being the source of their radicalisation.

    The NF for example recruited at many football grounds in the 70s. West Ham, Chelsea, Millwall etc.

    Does that justify or even explain someone strolling in now and shooting 50 men women and children?
     
  19. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    If nationals of any country choose to go into a conflict zone on any side and get killed then that is their choice.
    Incidentally does anyone know what happened to the Internationists who fought in the Spanish Civil war after that conflict finished? George Orwell obviously became a famous writer but were they prosecuted when they went back home?
     
  20. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    No but as society we have lost the ability to sieve info.

    Reference your own like above for Alvy's claim of the Al-Noor mosque having been the source of radicalisation for senior ISIS recruits.
     

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