No nail or grip fill?

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Major Mal Funxion, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. devil's advocate

    devil's advocate New Member

    I think the OP is asking about this for his own house, and possibly also planning to do the work himself.

    Under these circumstances, I personally wouldn't bother either my arris or my purse going out to hire a spit gun for this.

    And I would use an adhesive to hold the battens in place as well as cutting them for a tight fit, as we all know that internal timber shrinks...
  2. medgard

    medgard New Member

  3. blueassedfly!

    blueassedfly! New Member

    NO grifill max (black tube):)
  4. Major Mal Funxion

    Major Mal Funxion New Member

    Dirty D

    I hear what your saying chief, it's just that it's only a itty bitty steel 4m in length and 150mm deep, i'll set up a bit of a band stand, so once i've cut me nog's i'll be up there for an hour max, with gripfill...and don't worry i'll have me stetson on.
  5. murrmac

    murrmac Member

    dirty deeds, forgive me for being a bit thick here, but I still don't visualise how the spit gun works in this operation.

    are you nailing vertical noggins between both flanges, or are you nailing a continuous length of batten along each flange ?

    presumably you are shooting through the wood into the steel, so presumably you would have to grind off each protruding nail, at least on the underside of the beam.

    or have I got it completely wrong ?
  6. dirtydeeds

    dirtydeeds New Member

    one steel beam ?

    drill and bolt

    i wouldnt advocate glue
  7. murrmac

    murrmac Member

    cancel that last post, the penny has dropped.

    you cut the noggins slightly shorter than the distance between the flanges, and then nail them into the web of the beam, right?
  8. Major Mal Funxion

    Major Mal Funxion New Member


    You're worse than the Mrs...looks like i'll avta do it the right way, or she'll never let me forget, especially it if the covings on the floor first time a door gets slammed!
  9. Major Mal Funxion

    Major Mal Funxion New Member


    Show me this spit gun you speak of.
  10. yorkshireboy

    yorkshireboy Member

    This must be a wind up by some.
    A spit gun to do one beam.I,ve never used one in twenty years of building.Cut noggins and hammer tight then screw a lath or 2x1 horizontally.
    It may be tricky getting tight noggins by hand but with a mitre saw its a ten minute job.Or you could spend half a day hiring a spit gun.....:(
  11. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Two full lengths of 125mmx65mm timber, two holes and two 140mmx8mm bolts, countersunk.

    Mr. Handyandy - really
  12. handcraft

    handcraft New Member

    half a day hiring a spit gun ?

  13. dual193

    dual193 New Member

    Its noggins for me too if you are good like me... it takes no longer than hanging around hire shops lets keep it simple, joinery and carpentry are not jobs you are supposed to rush at i.m.o
  14. ­

    ­ New Member

    Cut the timbers tight and hammer them in. Then apply lots of Gripfill all round, followed up with the Hilti gun.

    When all this is done, drill and bolt the timbers.

    Now cast the whole beam in a strong resin.

    After three months curing, the resin will be ready for its protective coat of corrugated iron sheeting and cling film.
  15. Major Mal Funxion

    Major Mal Funxion New Member

    It was a slow starter this one , but thanks for the variety of advice peeps. It's good to see almost a 50-50 split on this one. I'll probably decide what to do next time her back is turned.. *appropriate smiley!*

    Still avent mastered them smiley things!

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