Oak Flooring

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by ukwoody, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. ukwoody

    ukwoody New Member

    Hi all, I have been asked to quote to lay 200 sq mtrs (yes 200) of T&G oak flooring in 6" and 3" widths 18mm thick in a large house. Cust wants it secret nailed down to ply subfloor (all ready laid).
    1) Can I use an ordinary air nailer (angled pinner) with 35mm brads for this.

    2) Do the nails hav to be special ie stainless steel or anything else.

    many thanks
    woody
     
  2. !!

    !! Active Member

    flooring nailer with 38mm cleats
     
  3. ukwoody

    ukwoody New Member

  4. !!

    !! Active Member

    Because 35mm brads won't hold it
     
  5. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    This man speaks from experience!
     
  6. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    aye 38mm cleats.
     
  7. ukwoody

    ukwoody New Member

    ok, will 38mm be long enough? Glancing at a chart i found it seemed to suggest longer nails would be ness, as 38mm woul only give about 12mm into subfloor.
    woody
     
  8. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    nope i think 38mm is correct for 18mm solid.
     
  9. !!

    !! Active Member

    As I remember 38mm will penetrate to a depth of 16mm, 50mm nails would go through the sub floor and possibly into the national grid.

    32mm nails would go 12mm into the sub floor which would hold under well maintained conditions
     
  10. Nixy

    Nixy New Member

    I would definately use a floor nailer. The action of hammering the nailer pulls the floor tighter together. Only problem is when you get near a wall for the last few rows, the floor nailer doesn't fit in the space.
     
  11. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    just hand nail the last couple of rows.
     
  12. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    nope i think 38mm is correct for 18mm solid.




    Am I missing something. Like angled into the sides(secret nailing) they're gonna be hitting concrete, aren't they ?

    And how thick is the ply underneath ?



    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  13. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    38mm into 18mm solid on 18mm ply won't go through!
     
  14. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    much lol
     
  15. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    nah, i have been told by my nail supplier that 38mm angled into 18mm solid will give around 16mm into ply.
    Suppose it is all down to the angle of the nails.
     
  16. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Depends where your starting the nail from I suppose!!!!!


    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  17. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    yep, when i bought my first nailer (1927 i think) the guy said 18mm flooring, 18mm ply you need 38mm, it worked never bothered to question it.
    BTW the nailer was 2 guinees lol!
     
  18. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    I'm doing this off memory not a calculator.
    18mm at 45 deg = 25mm
    1/2 that for t&g =12mm
    total =37mm
    about right
     
  19. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    I'm doing this off memory not a calculator.
    18mm at 45 deg = 25mm
    1/2 that for t&g =12mm
    total =37mm
    about right



    Sounds about right.

    But 32mm would still put 20mm into ply(and also at an angle-bonus)and that's more than you could get if put in straight.



    Just saying.


    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  20. audi-evo

    audi-evo Active Member

    the nail fires from about 2/3 of the way up the board (top of the tongue) so more like 16-18mm leaving about 22mm as this is fired in at 45deg it will only have a depth of about 16mm so 18mm ply is fine.
     

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