Pelmet plinth too close to window!

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by stoke, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. stoke

    stoke New Member

    Hi,

    I have a tall larder unit that the pelmet plinth overlaps onto the window...if that makes sense. Hit me with some recommendations please. The window edging is shabby so needs trim. The one side by the ladder will have to have a thin trim compared to the other sides of window pane. But that pelmet looks horrendous?

    Cheers.
     

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  2. Beeero

    Beeero Member

    Can you scribe a new longer bit and sail it on past so it finishes up against the window frame?
     
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  3. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    You can do as Beeero suggests. The proper way to have dealt with it would have been to return mitre the cornice into the window reveal. It can still be done as long as you have enough cornice left over.
     
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  4. sospan

    sospan Well-Known Member

    A return mitre wouldn't work as a cornice corner overhangs, so you would have had to stop it short by about 65mm which would have looked worse
     
  5. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    I'm not shure you know what i meant sospan.
    Where the cornice hits the wall, you cut a 45 degree mitre (the same as you would do on the front of the tall housing). You then cut another 45 degree mitre to join the one already cut, measure the tip to wall distance and then cut that off of the return mitre.
    Very simple, very basic and has been done in millions of Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian houses for hundreds of years. It's the logical way to finish that detail and iv'e been doing it since i started fitting kitchens.
     
  6. sospan

    sospan Well-Known Member

    I know what you mean but after the second 90 the cornice would be siting well inside the top of the unit
     
  7. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    No, im not shure you do mate. Wish i had some pics to detail it even more. It wouldn't because the second mitre is cut so as to return inside the window reveal.
     
  8. sospan

    sospan Well-Known Member

    This is what he has now

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    What you are suggesting is this ?

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  9. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    What did you use to do that sospan ? No, that's not what i'm sugesting..................i had a feeling you had misunderstood. On the first pic, put a mitre line on the top left blue corner and then simply return the mitre to what would be the window reveal behind the larder unit.
     
  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Well-Known Member

    Google return mitre skirting and you should get the idea.
     
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  11. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    Yep, exactly the same principal.
     
  12. sospan

    sospan Well-Known Member

    I know what a return mitre is but as I said above on a large projection pelmet like that it will still stick out and look the same the only difference would be that the end will look better from outside. At the moment the window reveal lines up to the edge of the larder unit so it can't realistically reduce its projection

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  13. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    You still have it wrong sospan. Move the mitre line up to corner of the blue box, then return the yellow cornice to what would be the the window reveal behind the blue box.
     
  14. sospan

    sospan Well-Known Member

    This is what the picture shows - yes ?

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  15. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    This is what i mean.

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  16. sospan

    sospan Well-Known Member

    To me its still going to leave the same problem with the projection and look much the same. The bottom section will need to be cut away to cope with the step into the window reveal

    I would have tested how it looked by stopping the cornice earlier and filling in the gap up to the reveal with a painted board. That way you eye won't be drawn to the projection and it won't obstruct things like blinds.
     
  17. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Well-Known Member

    Cutting a bit of cornice away to get round the small step in the reveal is normal, and takes seconds on a table saw. When fitting a kitchen, as a fitter it's my job to get around problems like this that havn't even entered the designers mind. The method i have described is the most logical and looks the best when finished. Ideally, whoever designed the kitchen should have thought about it beforehand and finished the tall housing 50mm or 100mm short of the window reveal. A blind can still be fitted, the cornice would still stop a few inches short of the window frame.
     

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