Place yer bets.

Nuttals resigned as well, though that's no bad thing, he was UKIPs Diane Abbott. :p:p:p
 
Lol!

It's all because of the stoodents!



What do these bright young folk know that the curmudgeons on here don't, I wonder? :rolleyes:
They knew that Labour were their last great hope of gaining a useless degree (as many of them are these days) without having to pay back zillions in student loans. Tell me you can actually see this DA.
Had Labour actually won, who do you think would be paying for students to get degrees in "Media Studies " (amongst countless other "Mickey Mouse " degrees)
 
They knew that Labour were their last great hope of gaining a useless degree (as many of them are these days) without having to pay back zillions in student loans. Tell me you can actually see this DA.
Had Labour actually won, who do you think would be paying for students to get degrees in "Media Studies " (amongst countless other "Mickey Mouse " degrees)


We have the most educated dole queue in the world.
Due to that degree in beauty therapy making me to clever to work in a factor.:p:p:p
 
Thing that really gets me is that the students actually voted for the party who introduced student loans in the first place. Makes you wonder what sort of education they're getting (specially those studying politics) :p:p:p:p:p:p
 
Thing that really gets me is that the students actually voted for the party who introduced student loans in the first place. Makes you wonder what sort of education they're getting (specially those studying politics) :p:p:p:p:p:p


My nephew who's at Cambridge is so Labour its scary, its almost like their brainwashed into thinking there's only one party.
 
My nephew who's at Cambridge is so Labour its scary, its almost like their brainwashed into thinking there's only one party.
I wouldn't say that there's only one party of choice, he could also support the Lib-dumbs or green lookings, and still be accepted.
The sheer though, even an incling of support for anything that the Conservatives propose would have him labeled as a Nazi, racist, misogynist nasty git.
So, with the threat of social ostracization hanging over him, you can't really blame the lad.
Sad, but true!
 
I wouldn't say that there's only one party of choice, he could also support the Lib-dumbs or green lookings, and still be accepted.
The sheer though, even an incling of support for anything that the Conservatives propose would have him labeled as a Nazi, racist, misogynist nasty git.
So, with the threat of social ostracization hanging over him, you can't really blame the lad.
Sad, but true!


I suppose its the opposite at Oxford.
 
The sheer though, even an incling of support for anything that the Conservatives propose would have him labeled as a Nazi, racist, misogynist nasty git.

*sigh* I well up with pride whenever I'm called a "Nazi, racist, misogynistic nasty git", if Diane Abbott ever met me, that's exactly what she would call me. Her, who despite denying grammar schools for working class kids force them into Comprehensive schools whilst sending her own kids to private school, for the dual purpose of getting them a better education, and by her own admission, protecting them from the 'black gang' culture that exists on Londons streets.
The lefty hypocrites will never accept that under their rule, the rich/poor divide increased and social mobility all but disappeared, whilst declaring that record numbers of youngsters are attending universities and obtaining degrees (in meejia studies and aromatherapy).
The lefty hypocrites will never accept that under their enforced experiment of mass immigration and multiculturalism, they've done more to promote racism and separatism than anyone before them.
The lefty hyprocrites love to use the word Nazi, whilst at the time openly displaying a hatred for Jewish people and an empathy for Arab terrorists.

If being 'left wing' involves all of the above, which it certainly appears to, then I'm sorry, I'd really, really, really rather be a "Nazi, racist, misogynistic nasty git", because the alternatives I've described above are far more hateful.
 
Young girl on telly last night looked about 18 explaining she was a medical student and could never vote anything but labour, do you think that when she gets her degree and lands that job in the hospital it will bother her that there are rafts and rafts of managers and so much waste of taxpayers money in other areas ? course it won't she will just join the ranks of the rest of em going on strike when Len tells them and demanding more billions be poured into the black hole that is the NHS. I spent the last 12 years of my working life in the NHS and seen it first hand, I would have thought you have also seen this JJ.

Don't get me wrong I love the NHS and have had excellent cancer treatment in the last few years but am not blind to the utter waste going on, I do also support better pay for those lower down the pay band but not yer managers on £50,000 + and the cosy directors club
 
I just can't understand why anyone with half a brain can become a leftie. surely even in this age of dumbing down education they must realise that left wing governments spend money to a level beyond the country's means then it takes a right wing government to sort it out by, of necessity, introducing austerity, that makes it unpopular and the electorate lurch back to the left. Thank goodness Jeremy Corbyn and his number challenged friends didn't win, at least more people voted Conservative than Labour, but it will be even more difficult for Theresa May's team to put right the mess that Gordon Brown's lot left behind, any coalition is a dead duck because nothing gets done, I reckon the Conservative government is better struggling on in a minority, at least their efforts will be recognised if opposed.
 
Bless. You lot - what are you like?!

I have to confess to feeling like a bit of a voyeur on this forum these past couple of days, just watching as the u-s console each other so openly and touchingly. Trying to make sense (only their type of 'sense', of course...) of what is actually very simple and straight-forward. Looking for a different angle. Trying to make the bleedin' obvious fit in with what's inside their heads.

And finding it just does not fit.

It's quite moving in some ways, but it makes me feel a bit unclean.

Must shower...
 
Young girl on telly last night looked about 18 explaining she was a medical student and could never vote anything but labour, do you think that when she gets her degree and lands that job in the hospital it will bother her that there are rafts and rafts of managers and so much waste of taxpayers money in other areas ? course it won't she will just join the ranks of the rest of em going on strike when Len tells them and demanding more billions be poured into the black hole that is the NHS. I spent the last 12 years of my working life in the NHS and seen it first hand, I would have thought you have also seen this JJ.

Don't get me wrong I love the NHS and have had excellent cancer treatment in the last few years but am not blind to the utter waste going on, I do also support better pay for those lower down the pay band but not yer managers on £50,000 + and the cosy directors club

Aye and before long she'll be joining the £50k + a year lot, will she still be voting Labour then?. Perhaps one day she'll join the cosy directors club and own her very own agency supplying nurses, she won't want to be in the upper income tax bracket then.
 
Bless. You lot - what are you like?!

I have to confess to feeling like a bit of a voyeur on this forum these past couple of days, just watching as the u-s console each other so openly and touchingly. Trying to make sense (only their type of 'sense', of course...) of what is actually very simple and straight-forward. Looking for a different angle. Trying to make the bleedin' obvious fit in with what's inside their heads.

And finding it just does not fit.

It's quite moving in some ways, but it makes me feel a bit unclean.

Must shower...
The weather's carp up here anorl.
 
surely even in this age of dumbing down education they must realise that left wing governments spend money to a level beyond the country's means then it takes a right wing government to sort it out by, of necessity, introducing austerity, that makes it unpopular and the electorate lurch back to the left.

Harry, I'm not saying that the Labour Govt didn't overspend, they did. But trust me when I say that the austerity policies that exist today, here, and around half the globe, have very little to do with govt overspending.
It's about re-financing banks (that should have been allowed to fail) and propping up economies after the 2008 global **** up.
 
Bless. You lot - what are you like?!

I have to confess to feeling like a bit of a voyeur on this forum these past couple of days, just watching as the u-s console each other so openly and touchingly. Trying to make sense (only their type of 'sense', of course...) of what is actually very simple and straight-forward. Looking for a different angle. Trying to make the bleedin' obvious fit in with what's inside their heads.

And finding it just does not fit.

It's quite moving in some ways, but it makes me feel a bit unclean.

Must shower...


This has to be the most contradictory post ever written on this forum.
June 23th 2016 ring any bells.
It should you haven't shut up about ever since.
 
Young girl on telly last night looked about 18 explaining she was a medical student and could never vote anything but labour, do you think that when she gets her degree and lands that job in the hospital it will bother her that there are rafts and rafts of managers and so much waste of taxpayers money in other areas ? course it won't she will just join the ranks of the rest of em going on strike when Len tells them and demanding more billions be poured into the black hole that is the NHS. I spent the last 12 years of my working life in the NHS and seen it first hand, I would have thought you have also seen this JJ.
Believe me , I see lots of things wrong with the NHS. Managers on £££ thousands, people in jobs totally unsuited to them. Suppliers taking the proverbial p**s with their pricing. I can actually buy paracetamol tablets cheaper in Asda than the NHS supplier charges the NHS. There's also a lot of things wrong which are beyond the control of the NHS. I see patients stuck on wards for weeks/ months , simply because there's no places for them in the public/ private healthcare sector. I see Social Services in absolute disarray. I know one patient who's had 3 social workers in as many months because the social workers keep going off on the sick because of the pressure they are under,,, but that's surely for another thread?

In my short career with the NHS, I can already see that there's almost zero chance of me progressing within it. one way of progression is to train as a nurse, but at my age I'd consider that out of the realms of even the remotest possibility. I'd been working for the NHS for about 7 months, when I saw a maintenance joiner position come up with Estates and Management. Regular days with one weekend working in four. A pay band higher than the one I'm stuck on. I was tempted, but,,, no shift increments, very little overtime, and more importantly to me, very little patient interaction. Only other progression that's possible at the moment is up to management. Our senior sister is pressing for our ward to become a dedicated dementia ward. If it does, our HCA's would receive specialist training in dementia care and would be entitled to a "band review" which could mean progressing to band 3.
I'm already an End of Life colleague on our ward (for which I receive no extra remuneration) and a Medical Devices trainer (again no extra remuneration) These extra responsibilities I gladly take on as it helps everyone on our ward. Quite often at the end of a long shift, I stay on for half an hour or more, catching up on paperwork I've had no time to complete during my shift time, or filling in an IR1 (incident report) on the Datix system, as there's absolutely no chance of doing these tasks in the time allotted.
Yep, there's a lot of things wrong with our NHS, but thank Christ it's there for you.
 
As a bonus, I think you've also witnessed the END of Skottish Indy, and the SNP as a serious party of rule.


:(

In your dreams, DA!

Even after this display of tactical voting by Scottish Tory/Lab/Lib , the SNP is still by far the largest party in Scotland (both in seats and votes cast).

Did you realise that if Dugdale, the Lab leader, had not told her members to vote TORY in seats just to stop the SNP candidate (and 'gifted' 12 seats to the Tories!!) - then Corbyn could have been in No10 right now? Well played Labour, the Tory's little helpers (as usual). You must be very proud of them.

And now these proud little Labour helpers will be able to suck up the coming 'coalition of crackpots' as Theresa gets into bed with the DUP - best tell both the Scottish Labour and Tory leaders not to mention they are each in same sex relationships, I suppose :D :D
 
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