powerflush price to sub contractor

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by plumberstool, Jan 9, 2008.

  1. plumberstool

    plumberstool New Member

    I had an email asking if I wanted to sub to an agency powerflushing systems, it turns out its for british gas, they are paying 8hrs @ £20.00 is this a fair price for this work? and how long would an average powerflush take, and are there hidden problems which occur any info appreciated thanx
     
  2. Cobblers

    Cobblers New Member

    do they supply the powerflush and chemicals, or do you have your own flusher?
     
  3. --------- plumbing

    --------- plumbing New Member

    £160 i'll sit indoors and watch the world go by.
    when they have just charged the customer £550.
     
  4. plumberstool

    plumberstool New Member

    they supply the machine and chemicals, and looking on the kamco website they say it should take about 5/6hrs for a 3 bed semi, not having done one, is this about right? as I asked what are the pitfalls/ problems that occur, did not think £160 was bad for 5/6hrs work, and surely not to heavy work, going rate is about £150 a day locally in in yorkshire thanx
     
  5. arfurrrr

    arfurrrr New Member

    "going rate is about £150 a day locally in yorkshire thanx"


    Since when ! don`t sell yourself short , at 150 a day less tax , less van , less fuel , less consumables = your not making anything
     
  6. plumberstool

    plumberstool New Member

    I meant if your working for a company surely your not going to get more than £20 an hr, others I talk to charge around £25 an hr on day work or £200 a day, I nearly always work on a price, very rarely do day work, the next job im going to wont need plumbers till end of feb, then it will probally last 8months if it like the one we hav just finished, so thought it might help finances till then
     
  7. Bungditin.

    Bungditin. New Member

    Been to a customer who BG contract and they want them to pay £700 to do a powerflush and if they don't then they won't be covered for any more repairs.
     
  8. sussexplumb1

    sussexplumb1 New Member

    If you have free days without other work I'd do it. After all you can always tell them to sling their hook if it turns out to be no good. On the plus side you may pick up other private plumbing work. Remember when powerflushing you may discover leaks or work which needs to be done - who pays for this?
     
  9. graceland

    graceland Active Member

    time sounds about right mate, have a crack
     
  10. graceland

    graceland Active Member

    theres an agency that runs the BG warmfront contract in London.
    these are their rates for a sub contractor who has to supply sundries, own powerflusher, van etc.
    Codes Labour Contractor prices Pay Rate

    G1 Full System and upto 5/6 rads inc gas run. 625
    G2 Remove old system 90
    G3 Verticle flue 73

    G4 Combi to combi inc power flush, part L and up to 5 Mtr Gas 290

    G5 Conv to Combi inc power flush, part L and up to 5 Mtr Gas 345

    G6 Conv to Conv inc power flush, part L and up to 5 Mtr Gas 290

    G7 Conv to F/Pumped inc all new valves and re pipe Cly cupboard 150

    G8 BBU to Combi 410

    G9 Install New Cylinder 36

    G10 Replace tank in loft 36

    G11 Fit new tank in loft 36

    G12 Replacedment rads with valves (no drops) 60

    G13 Gas run over 5Mts (not on full system) 7

    G14 Install new Rads including Valves 36

    G15 Vertical Flue 73

    G16 Remove Mulipiont and make good 36

    G17 Remove wall Htr and make good 10

    G18 Fit capping per drop 6

    G19 TRV's or valve exchange per rad (Pair) 10


    G20 Day rate if applicabe @£15.00ph

    All consumables and minor building materials to be provided by Contractor.

    All Safe working prices and PPE to be provided by Contractor

    Electrician to be provided by Client

    All extra WF materials to be provided by Client

    All extra material used on job to be claimed from site Manager
    for re issue to Contractor from Plumbs

    Waste to be removed by contractor to Clients designated sites
     
  11. fuctifino

    fuctifino New Member

  12. fuctifino

    fuctifino New Member

    What i meant was,those prices are carp.
     
  13. Simon J

    Simon J New Member

    What's the average price for a powerflush, say semi-detached, 8 rads?
     
  14. Jimthecob

    Jimthecob New Member

    Hi Simon here in cheshire for 12 rad system B.G. are charging £647.00 for a powerflush.I know this because I have recently copped for two of them I have used chemical desludge and inhibitor at half the cost its nice work.
     
  15. Simon J

    Simon J New Member

    Thanks Jim for the info, I work in South Manchester so its good to get a feel for the local market.

    Going on a Kamco one-day course in a couple of weeks to learn how to use the kit.

    looking forward to adding it to my skills list.
     
  16. v12man

    v12man New Member

    Simon!!!!!!!!!!

    Thats not what jim is saying! He thinks powerflushing is the devil's work! he just puts the some chemicals in for a while and hopes that when he drains down all the **** will come out!

    Sad Sad fool! He is the one ripping people off, not just Bg! If he has not cleared all of the **** out the inhibitor is useless! It will just need doing again in a couple of years.

    Jim the cowboy would be more suitable!

    V12
     
  17. takethemoneyandrun

    takethemoneyandrun New Member

    Hey Elvis, weren't you telling us the other week that you were going to earn a gazillion quids a week along with all the rest of your Harry Enfield mates down in Laaandan?
    Do the agency also tell you that, you are responsible for the boiler for the first month, and that all remedials are to be done by you, in your own time.
    That EAGA have inspectors that are trained to find fault on your installations and in fact they get PAID A BONUS for finding fault..
    EG filling loop on flow instead of return; filling loop NRV on boiler side in contradiction to MIs.
    That they expect a combi - combi in a day - no need to worry about power-flushes, you don't have time to do 'em; it's all done on a nudge and a wink.
    That you have to collect your own boiler from plumbcentre on the morning of the job. When everyone else is trying to collect!!!
    That you have to do do all making good to a high standard or it will fail.
    That you have to do an hours worth of paperwork at the end of the job.
    That you will wait for several weeks for payment from BG (this is not just on EAGA jobs, but a common practice.)
    ETC ETC ETC
    Warmfront is a self-perpetuating fraud of government money carried out with their conniavance for the sake of large contractors at the expence of staff and those it is supposed to help.
     
  18. v12man

    v12man New Member

    Yeah! But at least you get paid within 10yrs! Unlike Joe Pub
     
  19. tightenit

    tightenit New Member

    For those sort of prices you'd be better off as a jobbing plumber.That's hard work for that sort of pay, especially if all the other drawbacks are true. I would think also in London that getting around and parking is a nightmare. carrying boilers up all those stairs and dealing with all the local nutters. £10 for 2 valves - yer avin a larf!
     
  20. tightenit

    tightenit New Member

    Oh, £15 per hour, ***!
     

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