RCD myth showers

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Real Spark, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    well a lot of it, I remember!
    WHITFIELD/SCADDANN, WILL HELP!
    AND OTHER SOURCES OF COURSE!:)
     
  2. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    Always been taught that the lethal dose is 50mA and anything below isn't enough to stop the heart.

    That must be in a Scaddan book too.
     
  3. sparkin!

    sparkin! New Member

    but sine!
    you should drop to 10/ma!
    or why not rely on e/f/l/z/, on .4 disconnection?:)
    YOU ONLY GAINED .2 SECS WITH RCD AT 30MA!
     
  4. shortcircuit4848

    shortcircuit4848 New Member

    Again I am not debating the pros and cons but asking why a manufacturer cannot provide a piece of equipment that is safe as he must have doubts by requiring an RCD be fitted.
     
  5. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent New Member

    RCD's are king....
     
  6. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent New Member

    Always been taught that the lethal dose is 50mA and
    anything below isn't enough to stop the heart.

    That must be in a Scaddan book too.


    50mA yes, but could depend on the circumstances of the individual and senario...
     
  7. Ant1981

    Ant1981 New Member

    Such as?
     
  8. Lokkars Daisy

    Lokkars Daisy New Member

    Get a life sine ! HSE's Brief !!!

    Don't worry I will be your expert witness.
    No body has balls anymore ,stand up and be counted ,you will feel much better ,
    Happy creeping around with your tail between your legs ,continually looking over your shoulder???

    Fooman ,there is a difference between 0.4 sec and 0.04 sec.

    BUT predominately HSE ,time for them to call it a day !
    Another self perpetuating org ,who have nothing to loose but much to gain by introducing reems of paperwork !!
    ipso facto 2X hail marys and up yours
     
  9. Real Spark

    Real Spark New Member

    RCD myth showers

    Still a myth

    RS
     
  10. EH59 AMP

    EH59 AMP New Member

    do anybody actually read the bits in betwen the first and last post.
     
  11. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent New Member

    Haven't we finished with this subject now...
     
  12. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds New Member

    No.

    Why do you care so much?
     
  13. hohmslaw

    hohmslaw New Member

    Hot showers are for wimps, real men have cold showers and end up with Really Cold Danglybits
     
  14. 14th edition

    14th edition Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    What I find amazing is that given the strict requirements of what you can have where [or what you can't!] in a bathroom you can have a shower 300mm from your nose soaking wet. Where is the logic of having this zone system when you can have a shower with no absolute requirement to have an RCD fitted? Must be pull switches but only in the correct zone [struggles to remember which one], no accessories nada nada yet you can have a push button on your shower... Yea I know its IP whatever, but still!

    14th
     
  15. chriso996

    chriso996 New Member

    Apparently the 17th edition will require circuits within bathrooms to be protected by an RCD.
     
  16. Kai

    Kai New Member

    The big mistake in the 16th edition, is omitting RCD protection on shower units - I'm very surprised that such a glaring mistake went unnoticed before BS7671:2001 was published for use!
     
  17. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent New Member

    No.

    Why do you care so much?


    And..?
     
  18. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds New Member

  19. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent New Member

  20. pdelec

    pdelec Member

    Apparently the 17th edition will require circuits
    within bathrooms to be protected by an RCD.

    Yes, in the Draft for Public Comment (DPC) 701.411.3.3 says that RCD protection (not more than 30mA) is required for all circuits in a location containing a bath or shower.
     

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