dj ive actually used a spade to do this! i first used my grinder and cut teeth into the spade and then i used fairy liquid to clean mortar of brickwork andy....LMFAO very funny!!! really.....
i have been asked to post this by someone else... Tell him to soak it in vinegar and it will fall out
RACE!!!!!! i bet if me and andy had ten frames to take out and i used a recip. while andy used a saw, i would beat him easily!!!! whats the odds? im assuming by the way that most frames of a replacement age have horns on the head and cill and require cutting.(just a bit of knowledge from EXPIERENCE) also you say when you work for a firm you had no time to puss y foot around so it was 2 cuts and then out! well from EXPIERIENCE you cannot rush taking frames out. i teach my apprentice that when ripping out careful careful is the mantra. you could.... loosen bricks above loosen bricks on side loosen window board(when skew nailed into cill) mark windowboard loosen plaster internally chip brick faces with crow bar chip brick faces when knocking of sealent pull up any tiling internally drop things down below gash hands on un knocked out glass fill room with **** from on top of heads on upstairs windows fill room with glass splinters if knocking out glass to roughly. just some of the reasons to puss y foot around!
Will someone tell me who is the cleverest ? And by the way sid where have you posted it on TT. In the pub I suppose, where only the select few can see you making a mockery of yourself. Not the whole general public, as I can see. Handyandy - really
Sid, it is from experience that you come to rwealise that these 'horns' you talk about don't need cutting. They will break. If you cut every on of those I'd beat you easily at speed. They will break. And it also comes with experience to know how far, how hard and what direction to pull and force. Experience sid. You really are that naive aren't you. I didn't believe it at first, but you are really green. You need more practise. Learn here. Handyandy - really
sorry andy but please define what a horn is. just for clarity, dont go into all that jibberish about any fool blah blah blah.
im assuming by the way that most frames of a replacement age have horns on the head and cill and require cutting.(just a bit of knowledge from EXPIERENCE) is what i wrote... firstly you have interpreted this to mean cutting the horns. a horn being the extended part of the cill/head that goes into brickwork at each end. why the **** would i cut them? my point was (and it isnt hard to grasp) that you make one cut in the middle and prise head/cill up/down and towards the middle and slightly out.this enables you to slide other half out. now these horns being the size of the section used where in fact would you propose snapping them?
usual reply to try and win an argument then andy. i'll post it on tt open forum then andy just so we can all have a laugh then!!
I've been off doing something else if you don't mind. If the window is the original window as fitted when built, sid, you will find that the sill does not extend into the brickwork numbnut. The part of the head that may extend into the cavity can be pulled down by the fact that there is a cavity, numbnuts. Do builders purposely leave part of a brick out for a sill to go into ? No Next please. This one will beat you again sid. Experience, Sid. Are you still taking this all in, and learning ? Handyandy - really
If the window is the original window as fitted when built, sid, you will find that the sill does not extend into the brickwork numbnut. errrrrrrrr so when you see the cill go past the end of the window, original widows were cut round brick? The part of the head that may extend into the cavity can be pulled down by the fact that there is a cavity, numbnuts. who mention cavity? im talking about horns(snappable he he) extending into brickwork at ends! Do builders purposely leave part of a brick out for a sill to go into ? No originally windows were put in place and built round enabling horns to be locked behind bricks cut down in depth. what planet are you from? you didnt explain what a snappable horn was! by the sound of it you are talking about modern building practices where they might finish cill flush with edge of frame or cut round brickwork. but if you are expierienced as you say you are you will know all about horns anyway! just answer this question and i will forgive your ignorance! have you ever taken a window with horns out??? simple question, yes or no???
Yes I have taken them out with 'horns' though I've never heard them called horns. To me they are simply part of the sill and I would call the 'recessed'. When you first said horns, I envisaged the part of the upright going into the sill. These that can be broken. I guess that's a tenon. And yes again, I am talking about where a square hole was built, and a window put in it. No horns. Next you'll be telling me that my handsaw will be blunted in 2 seconds because it was a crittall window. Go back beep beep beep to my original post where I said " a normal run-of-the-mill window." And stop adding extra scenarios because you have lost AGAIN. Handyandy - really
Sid, it is from experience that you come to rwealise that these 'horns' you talk about don't need cutting. They will break. If you cut every on of those I'd beat you easily at speed. They will break. And it also comes with experience to know how far, how hard and what direction to pull and force. Experience sid. You really are that naive aren't you. I didn't believe it at first, but you are really green. You need more practise. Learn here. so you would say "be careful with that head it has recessed on it" lolol there you go andy youve just learnt the real term. anything else??? naive? green? DOH!!!! your done!!! andy just a quick note, maybe if you understood what a true horn was your missus wouldnt be a miserable sour faced cow with vinegar t*ts