Rigid copper tails for monoblock

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by ThreadJacker, Mar 27, 2009.

  1. ThreadJacker

    ThreadJacker Active Member

    Some cheap monoblock kitchen taps come with thin copper tails but does anyone know where I can get hold of some decent quality ones?

    When fitting these taps (especially on stainless steel sinks), I'd like to do away with the flexi's in favour of copper tails to give the tap some stability. ;)
  2. imran_

    imran_ New Member

    Does anyone use anything different to help stability??? Top hat washer, extra plate/support. Lots of people with cheap, thin as an aromatic duck pancake, sinks.
  3. plumber carl

    plumber carl New Member

    stick with the flexi if the sinks on the thin side as most are the tails snap at the end of the thread,,,,, go to Lott's were this as happened usual when there out,,,ikea taps often come with a substantial support bracket,,,
  4. andys342

    andys342 Member

    much easier with flexes as well
  5. GKU

    GKU New Member

    Agree , cobblers to those carp copper tails , just cut a small piece of 6mm ply with a suitable size hole in it (or something else suitable) to put up under sink for support before you put on horseshoe & nut ;)
  6. rome60

    rome60 New Member

    I prefer the copper tails if they are the 15mm type,the flexes can be restrictive on the hot flow rate.
  7. GKU

    GKU New Member

    Possibly , but I have'nt suffered any problems wiv em as yet :)
  8. GKU

    GKU New Member

    And anyway , if you're in a house where the hot flow rate is an issue then surely a monobloc kitchen tap aint the way to go as the size of the threaded socket (10mm/12mm) which the tails screw into will also be restrictive on the hot flow rate :)
  9. doing a bit

    doing a bit New Member

    i always scrap the ones that come with basin mixers and always fit rigid onto a kitchen sink, better job ;)
  10. tackleburger

    tackleburger New Member

    Know what you mean thready. Mate of mine asked me to fit a tap for him. Came from B&Q when I got the pipe slice on the tails the pipe crushed. ****!!!
  11. britishblue

    britishblue New Member

    The copper tails that are supplied with monoblock taps are not designed to be cut (which is why they crushed when you tried the pipeslice on them). You are supposed to adjust the supply pipework to the correct length to connect them. They are especially soft so that they can easily be bent by hand without using any formers.

  12. imran_

    imran_ New Member

    If you're charging by the hour Seriously, installing sinks that are so thin they can't take a normal monobloc :(

    When I was learning the trade, I don't remember anyone telling me to "let the pipes take the strain" ;)
  13. tackleburger

    tackleburger New Member

    When the pipes are coming through the back of a unit too high up you sometimes have to. I agree cutting is not ideal but decent pipes allow you too such as Bristan for example. I'd rather cut 20-30mm off than *** around.
  14. rome60

    rome60 New Member

    As said never use a pipe slice on the copper tails the pipes are to soft,use junior hacksaw a file the end smooth if you use push fit.

    GKU,i agree what you say regarding the tap body connections being 10mm bore but the 300mm flexes are 10mm bore.The decent copper tails increase from the tap body to 12mm then 15mm.
  15. GKU

    GKU New Member

    rome- ;)
  16. ThreadJacker

    ThreadJacker Active Member

    Personally I don't see a problem with the pipes making the tap more rigid, I mean nobodys going to be swinging on it are they?
  17. GKU

    GKU New Member

    TJ - I agree wiv ya in theory , but there are some strange people out there and experience has taught me to rarely be surprised at what some people do in there own homes :^O
  18. naughtyboy

    naughtyboy New Member

    try using a tap brace by franke its ideal for thin sinks and adds a lot of stability to monoblock taps available from some howdens
  19. imran_

    imran_ New Member

    By definition, if it wobbles less using copper tails then they must be taking some stress.
  20. Dick Puller

    Dick Puller New Member

    Oh c'mon now chaps!! Using the pipes to support the tap??!!! As said, if there's not a good support bracket & you MUST fit cheap tat, cut some exterior plywood(12mm at least) with a hole saw - one large hole & one small hole...............job done!!!

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