Secure raw plugs in tiles

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by jld142, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. jld142

    jld142 New Member

    hello all,

    First time house buyer, terrible DIYer.

    My plumper fitted a toilet roll holder in my bathroom. It uses 2 raw plugs to fix to a wall through some tiles. See attached pictures. The problem is that the raw plugs (not pictured) do not secure the holder flush to the wall. Instead they wiggle meaning the toilet roll holder appears to be hanging off the wall.

    Is there a way I can secure the rawplugs? I was thinking of filling the holes with builders caulk, pushing the raw plugs in whilst wet and then screwing the holder on and waiting for it all to set?
     

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  2. terrymac

    terrymac Well-Known Member

    Is the wall behind tiles solid brick ,or is it a plaster board on timber ( known as a hollow stud wall )
     
  3. jld142

    jld142 New Member

    Hello Terry,

    It’s hollow stud.
     
  4. terrymac

    terrymac Well-Known Member

    Hi. Then " normal" rawplugs are pretty useless. They are designed to expand into a hole drilled in masonry. You will be expanding them into fresh air. You could try the ones that are specifically designed for plasterboard fixing. What does the brass things back surface look like ( the area that comes into contact with the tile ) if its hollowed you could apply silicone to it before screwing it to the wall .maybe take a few pics to show here.
     
  5. teabreak

    teabreak Well-Known Member

  6. retiredsparks

    retiredsparks Well-Known Member

    How deep are the holes...
    what's behind the tiles.
    You may need to drill deeper....into solid and the longer screws to get fix.
    Or... use some plugs that are like this fischer duoplugs
    rs
     
  7. Isitreally

    Isitreally Well-Known Member

  8. teabreak

    teabreak Well-Known Member

  9. jld142

    jld142 New Member

     

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  10. jld142

    jld142 New Member

  11. terrymac

    terrymac Well-Known Member

    Well silicone will be no use on that fitting.
    Isitreallys link to the plugs for hollow walls will be your best bet
     
  12. jld142

    jld142 New Member

    Ahh ok. The problem with hollow fixings is that the holes are very close together and the hollow fixings would be touching each other which wouldn’t work. :(
     
  13. terrymac

    terrymac Well-Known Member

    There is a good chance that the ones specifically quoted in the link would work. They have two lugs ,which if they are inserted in the hole in such a way that they are both gonna open vertically then they shouldnt meet the plug in the other hole.
    If they dont work ,then choose a new toilet roll holder ,with a much bigger anchor plate that can be siliconed as well as screwed in ,with the fixing holes wider apart as well.
     
  14. Pollowick

    Pollowick Well-Known Member

    Use Fischer DUOPOWER plugs - available for 6, 8 or 10 mm holes.
     
  15. jld142

    jld142 New Member

    For all those who are interested, the solutions suggested didn’t quite work for me. Due to the distance between the holes or needing to cut the holes in the tiles larger than they currently were.

    Instead I pushed a fair amount of all purpose filler in the holes and inserted the raw plug. I waiting for it all to dry and then screwed in the holder. It’s solid as a rock now. Job done... hopefully
     
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  16. Isitreally

    Isitreally Well-Known Member


    Lateral thinking.
    You'll go far young man. :):)
     

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